Upcoming tariffs on vehicles made outside the US

[LouNYC]

It’s funny because, regardless of your political views, these are first-world problems we’re talking about. Whether you agree with tariffs or not, the fact that we can all go out and purchase a $60k–$80k vehicles makes this thread comical. I don’t recall seeing a single thread about inflation last year; I must have missed it.

 

[Area 51]

I expect there to be exemptions, kind of throws Japan for a spin after they announced a billion dollar investment in usa. They might just be forced to assemble cars here.

There goes the quality rating.

 

[stumbo]

It’s funny because, regardless of your political views, these are first-world problems we’re talking about. Whether you agree with tariffs or not, the fact that we can all go out and purchase a $60k–$80k vehicles makes this thread comical. I don’t recall seeing a single thread about inflation last year; I must have missed it.

Was inflation 25% last year?

 

[Area 51]

Your non-political post brought out the trolls.

 

[snipereagle8]

Was inflation 25% last year?

Like slow boiling frog, cumulative inflation since Covid is more than 25%, especially when we consider non-core CPI for things like Luxury goods and other inelastic demand.

 

[mdoged]

Was inflation 25% last year?

No, but was during the 4years of prior administration.

 

[LouNYC]

Was inflation 25% last year?

 

[stumbo]

My gosh, you guys are right! U.S. consumers have no right to criticize the current president's decision to make this vehicle (what this thread is about) cost 25% more because the previous president's administration also saw inflation rise over a 4 year period. It would be ridiculous to hold someone accountable and find fault in their actions and decisions if you can point to someone else and say they're bad too. That's how it works for you guys right?

 

[uraniumrich]

Still worth the money over the US junk. I would pay the premium if i did not already have one that I am very pleased with and proud to own.

Is any vehicle 100% US made? I'd venture to say highly unlikely (the parts that are in the cars are often made elsewhere, then imported.) I'd expect virtually all vehicles to see big price increases, even for ones assembled here in the USA.

 

[uraniumrich]

People really need to do some homework before freaking out. I get the whole "orange man bad" mentality but this was proposed, not implemented. Even if it does get implemented the 25% is charged to what the vehicle cost toyota, not you. So our price will not go up 25%. Worst thing I see happening is dealers try to monopolize on the fear generated by the "orange man bad" crowd.

It's not proposed, it's been implemented starting on 3 April 2025. It's difficult to assess the immediate impact, but substantially higher new car prices are likely across the board. Virtually no car is wholly manufactured in the USA, so even "USA Assembled" cars will see increases. Automobile makers have global supply chains, not country specific.

 

[jcdeng]

We are going back to seeing ADMs pretty soon.

 

[snipereagle8]

It hurts Toyota more. 25% increase in sales price is suicidal for Toyota, they will give or take absorb it for 6-8 months and spin up new capacity in Texas/Alabama, etc. More likely scenario is that they will get an exemption for 6-8 months while they figure out capacity and supply chain.

USA is a huuuuge market for Toyota.

 

[BuzzedOnTacos]

It’s funny because, regardless of your political views, these are first-world problems we’re talking about. Whether you agree with tariffs or not, the fact that we can all go out and purchase a $60k–$80k vehicles makes this thread comical. I don’t recall seeing a single thread about inflation last year; I must have missed it.

Not comical. The views on tariffs as they relate to our current and future LCs is related to the general anxiety as we view our country and its future. Inflation last year was par for the course. There’s fear in the air this term.

 

[HammerTheWall]

It’s funny because, regardless of your political views, these are first-world problems we’re talking about. Whether you agree with tariffs or not, the fact that we can all go out and purchase a $60k–$80k vehicles makes this thread comical. I don’t recall seeing a single thread about inflation last year; I must have missed it.

And yet we have way too many threads on MPG, what modifications will increase it, why it's so frustrating and bad, and 25 other reasons it's so important.

I look at it from this perspective: if the idea is to turn to US products and manufacturing, which are typically less reliable and more prone to failure, then those who want quality will bear the brunt of that increase. This has the potential to increase the level of crappy products that the population as a whole has to deal with and can afford, and that has nothing to do with purchasing a $60-80k vehicle for the majority of Americans.

 

[tanyamanatee]

One of the very good reasons I bought the truck when I did,... Not to mention the 0% interest. That can't be beat!

 

[uraniumrich]

For whoever is interested, Tesla has been mentioned as a USA based manufacturer. But, the Monroney label on a 2023 Tesla Model S tells a different story. 55% US/Canada (how much of that will be hit by tariff???) 20% Mexico. That leaves another 25% that is not a part of NAFTA.

 

[Doggman1525]

Not smart enough to know if tariffs are the answer or not. Consuming certainly became cheaper in a globally competitive economy though it sure seems that we dropped the ball when it came to finding new ways to re-employ people displaced by the redistribution of manufacturing overseas (still don't get how Canada got targeted as the big boogieman).

I am old enough to remember back when most industry was fairly heavily protected by trade barriers of one kind or another. Yeah, I guess America was great back then, childhood was better (at least that's how I reemeber it). Men were mostly employed in what felt at the time like secure, masculin jobs, but there were a lot of things that were "normal" back in the 70's and early 80's that I'm not sure people would go for these day's - like a family having one car, kids walking/biking to school, dad taking the bus to work days when mom had to go shopping. There'd be one TV, one phone for all to share, going out to eat would be reserved for
special occasions, fruit in the winter was a treat, you got two weeks vacation a year - a week to visit the in-laws at Christmas and maybe a week in July at lake Wassepenamee. Two cars, a tv in every room, cell phones for all, beach vacations, Disney, Hawaii, ski trips- that was all rich people stuff.

Honestly it'd probably be better for our mental health and the planet writ large to learn how to live without so much cheap crap. I just don't think most people are willing, much less capable of that kind of change without massive social and economic upheaval- but maybe that's what the powers that be have in mind.

 

[supernova]

For whoever is interested, Tesla has been mentioned as a USA based manufacturer. But, the Monroney label on a 2023 Tesla Model S tells a different story. 55% US/Canada (how much of that will be hit by tariff???) 20% Mexico. That leaves another 25% that is not a part of NAFTA.

Parts built in Canada or Mexico, will not get affected for now. Customs has to figure out that part first. So yes Tesla will be the least affected out of everyone

 

[bpurtell89]

People really need to do some homework before freaking out. I get the whole "orange man bad" mentality but this was proposed, not implemented. Even if it does get implemented the 25% is charged to what the vehicle cost toyota, not you. So our price will not go up 25%. Worst thing I see happening is dealers try to monopolize on the fear generated by the "orange man bad" crowd.

You have no idea how things actually work if you don’t think a significant percentage of tariff costs aren’t passed onto the consumer.

 

[bpurtell89]

It’s funny because, regardless of your political views, these are first-world problems we’re talking about. Whether you agree with tariffs or not, the fact that we can all go out and purchase a $60k–$80k vehicles makes this thread comical. I don’t recall seeing a single thread about inflation last year; I must have missed it.

While you’re not wrong in what you’re saying, you’re seemingly forgetting that it effects more than just the Land Cruiser and more than just the vehicle purchasing side of the industry.

Parts costs go up
Insurance goes up

More than a settled % of what you pay when you buy a vehicle is effected by this.

The MSRP on a tariff for a 70k vehicle is higher, sure. But regardless of that, it still exists for a 20k vehicle and affects the people who have that vehicle in their affordability range.