Gas tank - distance inaccuracy

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When I fill up the 1958, it says 305 miles remaining until empty. But when I fill up when it’s almost “empty,” I never get close to 18.9 gallons. Is there a reserve amount of gas remaining that Toyota doesn’t disclose on the “ lies to empty” figure on the dash, and if so does anyone have confirmation how much it is? 2 gallons maybe?
 
My dealer told me there was a 2-gallon reserve, so even if the idiot light comes on, you can get to a station relatively easy.
I haven't seen that there was a reserve tank in the Manual. Has anyone seen this documented anywhere?

And If there is a reserve tank is that reflected in the "Range Gauge"?
 
I haven't seen that there was a reserve tank in the Manual. Has anyone seen this documented anywhere?

And If there is a reserve tank is that reflected in the "Range Gauge"?
My understanding is that’s it’s not actually a reserve tank. It’s just that the reading on the dash says that there are 0 miles left when there’s still a remaining 2 gallons or so, which would equate to another 30 to 40 miles depending on your driving.
 
When I fill up the 1958, it says 305 miles remaining until empty. But when I fill up when it’s almost “empty,” I never get close to 18.9 gallons. Is there a reserve amount of gas remaining that Toyota doesn’t disclose on the “ lies to empty” figure on the dash, and if so does anyone have confirmation how much it is? 2 gallons maybe?
It seams easy to determine.. wait to fill up until your truck says “0 miles”. Fill up. Subtract the gallons gasoline you put it in from 17.9. That is you reserve, or close to it.
 
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Will you volunteer as tribute and run it dry? :giggle:
I have asked this elsewhere in this forum, but does any one know if the fuel system is harmed by running the tank dry? I want to put ethanol free fuel in my LC FE, since it will be parked for extended periods of time.
 
I have asked this elsewhere in this forum, but does any one know if the fuel system is harmed by running the tank dry? I want to put ethanol free fuel in my LC FE, since it will be parked for extended periods of time.
The fuel pumps require some extra reserve fuel since they use the remaining fuel to keep the pumps cool. Running it dry repeatedly could overheat your fuel pump and cause some issues long term, but once or twice shouldn't be an issue.
 
The fuel pumps require some extra reserve fuel since they use the remaining fuel to keep the pumps cool. Running it dry repeatedly could overheat your fuel pump and cause some issues long term, but once or twice shouldn't be an issue.
Thanks! I was aware of the fuel acting as a coolant to the in tank fuel pump, and never let my tank get that low. I only need to do it once, to speed along getting the ethanol out of the tank. Dealer wants $500 to do it in their service department. I would rather spend that $500 on something else.
 
Thanks! I was aware of the fuel acting as a coolant to the in tank fuel pump, and never let my tank get that low. I only need to do it once, to speed along getting the ethanol out of the tank. Dealer wants $500 to do it in their service department. I would rather spend that $500 on something else.
$500 to do what and why? Never mind read further back…..my mistake
 
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It seams easy to determine.. wait to fill up until your truck says “0 miles”. Fill up. Subtract the gallons gasoline you put it in from 17.9. That is you reserve, or close to it.
Yeah, I get it. I will eventually do that. I was hoping somebody had the info so I didn’t need to go through the exercise.
 
$500 to do what and why? I must be missing something here….
Drain the fuel tank and fuel lines, so I can fill it with ethanol free fuel. My LC FE will spend a lot of time parked at my new residence (400 miles away), until I can finish moving.

It is very well documented elsewhere, that E10 fuel starts to undergo phase separation, as early as two weeks after finding its way into your tank, turning into a gel, and eventually turning into little pesky ‘rocks’ in the fuel system.
 
I'm probably just muddying the waters, but I suspect it's more like one gallon extra.

Yesterday I got down to 36 miles* remaining after 293.4 miles traveled and put in 15.04 gallons to top it off. So, I got 19.5MPG for the tank and had 2.86 gallons** left. That means I had 55.8 miles left instead of the 36 miles shown at 19.5MPG. That's 19.8 miles extra after zeroing out the 36 miles shown on the display, or about a gallon.

*I didn't go to 0 because I had 40-50 miles before my next available gas station and was going out on a forest road.
**I imagine we really carry 18+ gallons with the fuel filler hose and all, but I left it at 17.9. Also, 19.5mpg...bummer.
 
I ran my car down to “zero” on the fuel mileage counter. I believe there’s about a gallon in reserve.

At 15 miles, an amber fuel light comes on along with a large warning on the dash screen about low fuel. You never actually hit zero (I was sort of disappointed) because it switches from numbers to the word “refuel.”

I topped it off and it looks like less than a gallon, but I assume that the fuel filler neck and hose have maybe a quarter gallon.

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I ran my car down to “zero” on the fuel mileage counter. I believe there’s about a gallon in reserve.

At 15 miles, an amber fuel light comes on along with a large warning on the dash screen about low fuel. You never actually hit zero (I was sort of disappointed) because it switches from numbers to the word “refuel.”

I topped it off and it looks like less than a gallon, but I assume that the fuel filler neck and hose have maybe a quarter gallon.

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In the old days a float in a fuel sending unit would reach the end of its travel and send a signal to turn the “refuel” light on. I wonder if the LC does that?
 
The user manual says if the fuel is less than 3.1 gal, it might not be able to start. How do we understand that? 3.1 gal seems a lot.

■Running out of fuel When the vehicle has run out of fuel and the hybrid system cannot be started, refuel the vehicle with at least enough gasoline to make the low fuel level warning light (P.596) go off. If there is only a small amount of fuel, the hybrid system may not be able to start. (The standard amount of fuel is about 3.1 gal. [11.9 L, 2.6 Imp.gal.], when the vehicle is on a level surface. This value may vary when the vehicle is on a slope. Add extra fuel when the vehi
 
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