It all boils down to range anxiety.

Perhaps mentioned already ... the LC250 model sold in the middle east and other markets with the same T24A-FTS 2.4l engine used on US models, gasoline (not diesel), without the hybrid has a 29 gal tank and gets 25mpg (~700 mile range)

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The non-hybrid variant has a fairly large drop-off in both horsepower and torque however

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WOW!!!!!! Good info!! I’m just going to go get a container of these.
 
Here's a recent "distance to empty vs. remaining fuel" chart, now that I have about 10,000 miles on the 1958 edition. The relationship between distance to empty and remaining fuel (nominal capacity minus refill gallons) has been pretty consistent over the 28 tanks consumed so far. The farthest I've gone is about 15 miles past 0 DTE, when I was able to put 15.9 gallons in the tank. ultane (in an earlier post in this thread) was able to get 16.9 gallons, so the low-fuel warnings are conservative, as others have mentioned. I'm not suggesting that people routinely go past 0, but there doesn't seem to be a reason to worry if you can't get to Costco (cheapest premium around these parts) before DTE hits 0.
 

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I still can’t believe the difference in range at fillup with everybody. I get between 370-380 miles and after the first week of the LC, I never got lower than 340 miles till empty
1958, light weight street tire 245/70/r18, no roof rack/bars, no rock slide, no traffic (stop, stop, stop and go and stop : Los Angeles), etc. ??
 
A 300-325 mile range might not be the most in the world, but I can’t get myself to see it as enough of an issue to warrant this much pearl clutching.
The biggest problem that I see is for those who pull a boat or a camper, as the fuel economy will drop off precipitously as the turbo is called on more often to get up a hill, etc.
 
I still can’t believe the difference in range at fillup with everybody. I get between 370-380 miles and after the first week of the LC, I never got lower than 340 miles till empty
What kind of gas mileage are you getting. I'm always around 275 to empty. I've had it about a month with one highway trip, averaging about 18 mpg, driving in normal mode.
 
What kind of gas mileage are you getting. I'm always around 275 to empty. I've had it about a month with one highway trip, averaging about 18 mpg, driving in normal mode.
Yes same. I have over 6k on the odometer too. Usually its like 250 miles to empty but I can maybe get 275 out of it.
 
A 300-325 mile range might not be the most in the world, but I can’t get myself to see it as enough of an issue to warrant this much pearl clutching.

Agreed. I guess I never realized there was a group of folks out there whose strategy is running on a single tank as long as possible. For me, when the warning comes on, I fill it up.
 
over 8000 miles and the highest range I have seen is 315 but that was 4 months ago. Recently its been between 280 and 295.
 
Perhaps mentioned already ... the LC250 model sold in the middle east and other markets with the same T24A-FTS 2.4l engine used on US models, gasoline (not diesel), without the hybrid has a 29 gal tank and gets 25mpg (~700 mile range)

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The non-hybrid variant has a fairly large drop-off in both horsepower and torque however

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I have one of these, and trust me there is not much of a range increase with the larger fuel tank. Im getting on avg about 7km/l (~14.4l/100km or 16.3mpg) compare to what is advertised, with a range of roughy 700km (~430 miles). Then again i didnt buy this rig for its fuel efficiency… 🤪
 
There are multiple threads on MPG numbers, regular vs. premium gas, mods for gas tanks. After driving to near empty to remove the wrong grade gas (don't send your teenager to the gas station) I observed that the fuel level display seems designed to create range anxiety. Even with 1/4 tank showing, to me it looks like I'm about to run dry. I may have turned it off, but also did not get any low-fuel warning even down to 30 miles left (when I gave in and filled up). To me, the fuel display is not as effective as it should be, especially in a vehicle designed for driving in places where no help is coming if you run out of gas.

I'm sure I will get used to it, but would like to have a display that doesn't cause me to worry about remaining fuel.
Not just the teenagers, my Toyota dealership only fills up their new cars with regular (they have no Premium gas pump)…Wonder what Toyota would say about out that?
 
Me too. I have never gotten below 300 miles per tank in mixed use suburban driving. Then don't forget, there is still the 2+ gallon reserve left so that puts it solidly in the mid 300s range.
 
290-310 per tank
I have one of these, and trust me there is not much of a range increase with the larger fuel tank. Im getting on avg about 7km/l (~14.4l/100km or 16.3mpg) compare to what is advertised, with a range of roughy 700km (~430 miles). Then again i didnt buy this rig for its fuel efficiency…
Yes, fuel efficiency is not much of a concern. However, short driving range (under 400 km being reported with proper tires) for a land cruiser is very much is a massive disappointment for those in North America of us who bought one intending to use it for its advertised design intent. I would not hold out hope that Toyota will rectify in future model updates.

Will need to go aftermarket to correct this shortcoming of the NA spec.
 
A 300-325 mile range might not be the most in the world, but I can’t get myself to see it as enough of an issue to warrant this much pearl clutching.
Those out in West TX, Wyoming, Canada, etc. are very much not overreacting. They hybrid combined with a normal sized gas tank of the prior generations promised the kind of "land cruising" range the rest of the planet earth got from their diesel LC's and LC Prados. The 80, 100 and 200 series all had a "normal" +/- 25 gallon tank in North American spec. (70 series is 34 gallon or more, but we never go that one...) We were all very excited to see Toyota promise a 23% increase in MPG with the 250/Prado hybrid, but then shocked to see the design so compromised by forced reduction in fuel capacity by 28%. Very sad Toyota was forced to do this to bring us this vehicle, but at least its here and after market fixes are on the way.
 
Those out in West TX, Wyoming, Canada, etc. are very much not overreacting. They hybrid combined with a normal sized gas tank of the prior generations promised the kind of "land cruising" range the rest of the planet earth got from their diesel LC's and LC Prados. The 80, 100 and 200 series all had a "normal" +/- 25 gallon tank in North American spec. (70 series is 34 gallon or more, but we never go that one...) We were all very excited to see Toyota promise a 23% increase in MPG with the 250/Prado hybrid, but then shocked to see the design so compromised by forced reduction in fuel capacity by 28%. Very sad Toyota was forced to do this to bring us this vehicle, but at least its here and after market fixes are on the way.
Fair point. Doing a quick unscientific audit of people who have posted in this thread, few appear to live in sparsely populated areas like the ones you list. Not to say there’s nobody who does - but perhaps range is a concern for a specific subset of people which is not the same subset as is complaining about it.

I myself live in Denver and I do go up the hill all the time. Colorado is not West Texas in terms of distance between points. There are not many opportunities here to put yourself more than a few dozen miles from a gas station absent some really poor planning.
 
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