LC FE, 2500 or so miles, driving entirely in Normal mode, mix of highway and in town, stock tires/wheels, averaging 20.2, and I usually set the cruise at 77 on the interstates.
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I call I 95 through Florida the Daytona 500. 80 is too slow in left lane anymore. They'll run ya over.I can neither confirm nor deny that it is definitely over 101. It's too easy to go fast on interstates!
Truth! I-80 around Harrisburg is the same way. People are taking the interstate numbers as minimum speed limit guidelines!I call I 95 through Florida the Daytona 500. 80 is too slow in left lane anymore. They'll run ya over.
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How stable was it???I can neither confirm nor deny that it is definitely over 101. It's too easy to go fast on interstates!
Better than I thought it would be. I'd say it was just fine.How stable was it???
Felt pretty solid and stable for a 5300 lb vehicle. It definitely had more in it.How stable was it???
What trim is your LC? My dash looks way different from yours. I have LC LC.I have an extremely heavy foot and moving over to try hybrid has been a learning experience. You really need to practice fighting the mpg bar for a few drives to understand how your acceleration and breaking really effects the mpg. This is my morning driven in SoCal traffic this morning. I’m getting better.
That’s just an estimate based on data I found on this forum. If you’re getting 24+ I’d bet most of your driving is 30-55 mph and therefore the roof rack has less of an effect on your aerodynamics.Do you really think that the FE roof rack costs us 4 MPG? I am getting 24+ MPG (average since new), and more on the rural highways in my FE on the OEM Michelins.
Most of it has been on hilly country roads, 45mph, sometimes up to 55 mph speed limit, with small town traffic lights to slow forward progress.That’s just an estimate based on data I found on this forum. If you’re getting 24+ I’d bet most of your driving is 30-55 mph and therefore the roof rack has less of an effect on your aerodynamics.
Yep, you’ve got the best case scenario for driving speed to maximize fuel efficiency. The only way you could do better than that is if there were no hills and you never had to stop, obviously you can’t do anything about that.Most of it has been on hilly country roads, 45mph, sometimes up to 55 mph speed limit, with small town traffic lights to slow forward progress.
That would be easy to defend against. IIRC, the numbers come from the government. Not Toyota. And is based on 55 mph, no headwinds, no hills, etc.There are class action lawsuits against companies (like Tesla and others) for false range claims.
I am betting that Toyota will be the recipient of a class action for their false land Cruiser claims as well.
~3.40 in our neighborhood outside of Denver and 20-30 cents less in the city. ~3.55 at our place in Vail (Avon) last weekend.Checking in after putting some hwy/mountain driving on the LC from Santa Fe to Granby, CO to YMCA of the Rockies for a week of scent work detection training with my dog. Site had dirt roads and 20 mph speed limit and had to drive to all the search areas. Also received the oil test from Blackstone which was pulled at 598 miles, and now at 1,588 after ~ 800 mile trip. I really don't like coming back from CO on a Sunday due to the RVs and other slow pokes and getting stuck behind them for miles. LC has some serious torque/power at higher speeds, got up to 90 multiple times, found it a little difficult maintaining lanes at high altitude with the KO3's but manageable. From Granby south to Antonito, CO I was down to 38 miles of gas left which I thought was good with the driving conditions and moderate to high speed. Got stuck in a line of cars on hwy 285S in NM that took about 20 minutes to get out of due to very few passing opps.
Overall YTD combined gas mileage was 21.3 mpg over 1,588, I think it will get better as I don't normally drive over 80 much. Probably would have gotten 1 - 2 mpg better if the original Michelins were still on the vehicle instead of the KO3's. Running them at 35 lbs.
The Blackstone testing was at 588 miles, oil was super black like coal tar and smelled like straight up gas, super strong which they indicated happens frequently in new engines. I put Pennzoil ultra platinum 0w-20 in and an Ecogard 10k synthetic filter which likely is better than the factory filter. The oil is still clear, will likely have it changed again after 2 long trips to western CO for dog trials in November. Paid $4.43/gallon premium for multiple fill ups in CO, filled up yesterday in Santa Fe premium $3.23/gallon, something is wrong with that picture but I will take the $3.23 at Valero all day. The verbiage from Blackstone is below:
"Thanks for noting the oil's strong gas smell. It doesn't always take much fuel in the oil for it to smell
like gas, and this sample's 370°F flashpoint suggests only 0.8% of this sample is fuel. That isn't enough to
show or cause a problem. If you want to monitor for excess fuel dilution, though, you could check the
dipstick from time to time to see if the oil level is rising. This sample's high levels of aluminum, copper, and
silicon are typical at the first oil change, from break-in. The TBN's strong. As far as we can see, running the
next oil about 5,000 miles would be okay."
Sinclair in Granby and Antonito~3.40 in our neighborhood outside of Denver and 20-30 cents less in the city. ~3.55 at our place in Vail (Avon) last weekend.
Where did you find gas in Colorado at $4.43?
Numbers actually come from Toyota with conditions determined by the government, and includes headwind at 55 MPH. Government only test a small number of vehicles to validate the numbers manufacturers report.That would be easy to defend against. IIRC, the numbers come from the government. Not Toyota. And is based on 55 mph, no headwinds, no hills, etc.
Based on the comments in this forum, this seems to be the math...
FE Style roof rack = -4 MPG
BFG All Terrain Tires = -2 MPG
Based on that math, if you can get 21 MPG on a LC LC, you add the FE roof rack that drops to 17 MPG. Add BFG KO2 AT Tires and it drops again to 15 MPG.
Anybody with a FE getting more than 17 pretty much my experience
about my experienceBased on the comments in this forum, this seems to be the math...
FE Style roof rack = -4 MPG
BFG All Terrain Tires = -2 MPG
Based on that math, if you can get 21 MPG on a LC LC, you add the FE roof rack that drops to 17 MPG. Add BFG KO2 AT Tires and it drops again to 15 MPG.
Anybody with a FE getting more than 17 MPG?
It was stated earlier on this forum, that the vehicles are tested in a lab, with the vehicles on something like a Dyno, to come to the formation of the fuel economy numbers. I don’t know what the truth is.Numbers actually come from Toyota with conditions determined by the government, and includes headwind at 55 MPH. Government only test a small number of vehicles to validate the numbers manufacturers report.