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[Jimbo]

Welcome Jimbo - 750k miles in LC’s that’s impressive. We’ve had one 120 series, three 150 series and a 250 Invincible due in early December - with a tow bar….maybe.
Between the two of us that’s over a million miles without a single hiccup, I wonder what the stats are for Land Rover Discoveries or Range Rovers??!!

What do you think about the engine in the 250? Same power plant as the last 150 but hopefully they are getting a bit more out of i??

It is considerably faster and has much more low down torque than our 15 and 17 plate 150 series but these were the 173 bhp the later ones were 200 hp so I couldn’t compare. I can say the chassis is greatly improved the scuttle shake of the old model has gone and they are much quieter inside I would also,say it handles and rides better than my wife’s 150 which is on air suspension. The gear box which was always the most annoying part of both the 120 and 150 series is now very good and doesn’t overrun like the old one. It seems to regen the dpf about every 100 miles .whilst I have this on tractors I have never had it on a car so I’m not sure if that’s usual. Perhaps this is passive regeneration which is taking advantage of the high engine temp? I ran it up to Cheltenham and back today and it averaged 30mpg, pretty good as I had to hunt round lanes as the M5 was buggered again!

 

[Dave]

That’s good. I’ve not heard of needing a secondary immobiliser before. I thought that a tracker would be the next stage in security. I would be interested in what type of immobiliser they require. Would a simple hidden isolation switch suffice?

Sometimes the simple isolation switch is best cannot be detected with a lap top but the vehicles are very complicated electrics wise where / what would it isolate ?

 

[Dave]

It is considerably faster and has much more low down torque than our 15 and 17 plate 150 series but these were the 173 bhp the later ones were 200 hp so I couldn’t compare. I can say the chassis is greatly improved the scuttle shake of the old model has gone and they are much quieter inside I would also,say it handles and rides better than my wife’s 150 which is on air suspension. The gear box which was always the most annoying part of both the 120 and 150 series is now very good and doesn’t overrun like the old one. It seems to regen the dpf about every 100 miles .whilst I have this on tractors I have never had it on a car so I’m not sure if that’s usual. Perhaps this is passive regeneration which is taking advantage of the high engine temp? I ran it up to Cheltenham and back today and it averaged 30mpg, pretty good as I had to hunt round lanes as the M5 was buggered again!

Aaah mines doing a DPF regen about every 100 miles I told the Dealership when they had it in but seem to have ignored me /it ?? interesting is it something they cannot fix / answer ??

 

[flyingtrotter]

Immobiliser - Ghost Scorpion and this are what they are suggesting

 

[flyingtrotter]

Are the BFG KO3’s in the UK yet ? Seem to be still KO2

What size are you going with ? 265 70 18 (ie same as stock) or maybe 265 65 18 (to allow for the greater degree of nobbliness)

 

[Dave]

Immobiliser - Ghost Scorpion and this are what they are suggesting

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Looks good
Can everyone who is having there tow bar fitted by the dealer please report these things i,m having problems with mine I was told the electrics are plug and play but its way more complicated than just pluging in !!!
Can you please tell me ---
1/ When the trailer is attached and put into REVERSE does the rear sensors (alsorts) reversing anti collision breaking / rear beepers alsorts etc DISABLE ?
2/ When indicating do you hear a buzzer at the rear should be inside the OSR Quarter panel trim ?
3/ Is there an indication on the dash that you have a trailer attached ? in the US they show a big picture of your car and trailer on the dash see TRD JON on you tube towing
4/ Does the dealer have to code inn the electrics to the car ?? even though it states PLUG AND PLAY ??
All these questions will be a massive help to me as I fitted my own tow bar and electrics all bought from the dealer OE stuff becase I fitted it they are to be polite not interested even though I have just spent £80k with them not helpfull in fact quite the opposite but then again I have forgotten we are the chosen few and should be gratefull !!! its been a very strange buying proccess to say the least
Please once again report on your tow bar stuff
Cheers Dave

 

[Jimbo]

Is the requirement for a second immobiliser due to your location or the fact that the Toyota fitted one doesn’t match Thatchams requirements ?

 

[Jimbo]

Are the BFG KO3’s in the UK yet ? Seem to be still KO2

What size are you going with ? 265 70 18 (ie same as stock) or maybe 265 65 18 (to allow for the greater degree of nobbliness)

I will stay stock with KO3 when they arrive. If you lower the aspect ratio you will change the ride height 0nly by 13mm ( but every little helps!)and the speedo will be slightly off.

 

[Jimbo]

Aaah mines doing a DPF regen about every 100 miles I told the Dealership when they had it in but seem to have ignored me /it ?? interesting is it something they cannot fix / answer ??

I think its fine Dave
having looked at the way passive regen works it burns out any soot from the filter when it reaches a certain temp after a certain mileage .You get a slight hot smell from the engine but its not using extra fuel like a forced regen does (which our tractors do) It seems a little and often policy is probably a better option. This only works if you get it hot enough so people who do lots of little runs or city drivers probably wont see it so much.

 

[Jimbo]

I will stay stock with KO3 when they arrive. If you lower the aspect ratio you will change the ride height 0nly by 13mm ( but every little helps!)and the speedo will be slightly off.

Just looked at my stock tyres they are 265-65-18

 

[Strad]

It is considerably faster and has much more low down torque than our 15 and 17 plate 150 series but these were the 173 bhp the later ones were 200 hp so I couldn’t compare. I can say the chassis is greatly improved the scuttle shake of the old model has gone and they are much quieter inside I would also,say it handles and rides better than my wife’s 150 which is on air suspension. The gear box which was always the most annoying part of both the 120 and 150 series is now very good and doesn’t overrun like the old one. It seems to regen the dpf about every 100 miles .whilst I have this on tractors I have never had it on a car so I’m not sure if that’s usual. Perhaps this is passive regeneration which is taking advantage of the high engine temp? I ran it up to Cheltenham and back today and it averaged 30mpg, pretty good as I had to hunt round lanes as the M5 was buggered again!

Thanks Jimbo, that’s good to hear. We had a 2017 173bhp car and then the 2022 201bhp version of the 150 series and it definitely had improved a lot, fast and smooth enough but not quite what you can get from the new Defender or XC90 so I’m pleased to hear you like it and a new engine getting 30mpg is good. I think we averaged something like 27mpg over the last couple of years with the old one.

Dave - the DPF re-gen happened similarly often on the outgoing model. It was a bit annoying tbh but you soon get used to flicking the OK button on the steering wheel to get rid of the constant messaging in the dash. There was a sticker telling you about it on the driver’s door so that had to go too!

This insurance shambles and extra immobilisers is appalling and reflects really badly on Toyota UK.

 

[flyingtrotter]

Just collected mine

No key cover
Mats delayed
Trunk liner misplaced
Rear first edition Mat/viver that clips on the back missing

Honestly these people are complete amateurs - they also had the 3 rd row seats stucks on the parcel shelf - it’s amazing they can put a pair of trousers on without an assistant

I’m ok with the imobiliser - I think that is going to become a Standard request

 

[Strad]

Congrats on the collection though sorry to hear of the frustrations. Look forward to hearing what you think of it??

 

[flyingtrotter]

So far so good

Tyres look very road biased so they are a concern and as everybody has said the internal storage is very limited but my dogs box is now in and will take it for a nice trip tomorrow

Hoping the cool box try becomes available in the UK

 

[KevD]

Just collected mine

No key cover
Mats delayed
Trunk liner misplaced
Rear first edition Mat/viver that clips on the back missing

Honestly these people are complete amateurs - they also had the 3 rd row seats stucks on the parcel shelf - it’s amazing they can put a pair of trousers on without an assistant

I’m ok with the imobiliser - I think that is going to become a Standard request

Congrats FT. It must be satisfying to finally get it, even if things haven’t gone particularly smoothly.

 

[flyingtrotter]

Just had a nice run to take my dog for a play in the country - 70 mile round trip - all good - it’s. It as smooth as the 4.4 V8 in my Range Rover was but it can get a move on and has a reassuring noise and feel - almost an “honest” engine feel - and I knew it would be different

The tech will take some getting used to as will the lack of in cabin storage

 

[flyingtrotter]

Could someone ping me an image of the key case and the mat that goes in the boot and clips up to stop stuff falling out

I want to sent to the lemons at the dealership

 

[flyingtrotter]

 

[Strad]

Lovely looking Lab, I have a very similar one!!
Great pic of the LC and really glad you like the engine, that was definitely my biggest concern.

 

[flyingtrotter]

Fred is a Drakeshead dog - my second from that line - lovely home dog and a brilliant peg dog

I have driven 80 miles so far so hardly enough to form a firm view but I have parted with the same amount you all have so I start with a desire to feel I did the right thing

Would I have referred a big 4.4 or 5.0 V8 over the 2.8 4 pot - sure but in 2024 that wasn’t going to happen so need to make the best of it

I will share further impressions particularly after a planned 1000 mile trip up to Scotland - hope the missing mats arrive beforehand and I can get some more appropriate rubber