2024 v 2025 1958

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All great to be here! I have a 2025 1958 that is arriving in a couple weeks, but my local dealer has the identical configuration in a 2024. My preference is to have the newer MY, but is there any major reason aside from depreciation to stay with the 2025? Were there any issues/bugs that were rectified? I have not really found anything online.
 
All great to be here! I have a 2025 1958 that is arriving in a couple weeks, but my local dealer has the identical configuration in a 2024. My preference is to have the newer MY, but is there any major reason aside from depreciation to stay with the 2025? Were there any issues/bugs that were rectified? I have not really found anything online.
Save the $$ and get the 24 without question
 
Save the $$ and get the 24 without question
What would you say is a fair ask on the discount? They have offered $500, which is basically nothing. I was thinking more like 3%
 
Not aware of any declared issues. However, Toyota is not going to say anything if undeclared improvements are made to rectify non-recall glitches, especially to the electronics/firmware. Personally, am going for a 2025. Also, would depend on how long one anticipates keeping the vehicle, as a MY difference in trade-in value can be quite a bit during the early years of ownership.
 
In the Midwest, including even Chicago, there are very, very few LC trims available. The only 2024 LC trims I see were dealer demos and have 2,500 miles or more on them. They are listed at or well above MSRP and selling.
Non Toyota dealers who have somehow got their hands on a low mile pre-owned model are absolutely insane on price....well over MSRP.

Toyota is not producing a high volume of Land Cruisers. This is something they have always done and it works effectively to keep them somewhat rare and keeps their prices high.
 
If you have your eye on the '24 1958, make them an offer of what you feel is comfortable and negotiate. You can always go up, but you can't go down. Let us know.
 
There's a few 1958s around, but they don't seem to last long. Agreed with above, make an offer and see what they say.
 
Not aware of any declared issues. However, Toyota is not going to say anything if undeclared improvements are made to rectify non-recall glitches, especially to the electronics/firmware. Personally, am going for a 2025. Also, would depend on how long one anticipates keeping the vehicle, as a MY difference in trade-in value can be quite a bit during the early years of ownership.
This is absolutely true. During production Toyota will make running changes to the assembly process. Jidoka is one of two pillars in the TPS and is loosely translated as Automation with human oversight and any production worker can stop production at any time when issues occur. We use some of this in the Aerospace industry as well. I guarantee you, changes have been made during the 24 MY production run and going into 25, along with part improvements or supplier changes none of which Toyota will make public because to them...this is Kaizen
 
Not much of a discount and it can't hurt to ask for more. From what I understand, pricing will being going up by $500 on the 25MY.
Where do you live??
You should be getting a major discount. I’m seeing 5k off (sometimes more) of the 2024 1958s in Vegas.
 
Where do you live??
You should be getting a major discount. I’m seeing 5k off (sometimes more) of the 2024 1958s in Vegas.
Canada. No discounts on LC that I've seen (though I haven't spent a lot of time looking). I was just told that if I didn't take delivery of mine and waited till 25MY it would go up by $500.

We don't get the stock that the US gets. In fact the Toyota dealerships in my area literally have less than a handful of new vehicles. Most of what they have on the lot is either pre-ordered, or used. Very different than what I'm seeing in the States.
 
I’m in Boulder, CO— so it’s a pretty hot item here. The 2024 sold for SRP today, so I’m going for the 2025 that I already have a deposit on. Not sure I’ll have any luck negotiating on that one, but will surely try.
 
2025s are delivering in the states now. Good luck out there! PacNW still has high demand.
 
I would suggest using the Toyota website, there are 1958’s listed near Boulder CO for $3-4K off SRP.
Expanding the search radius to whatever you’re willing to drive and then sorting by Price - Low to High.
I was fortunate to pay ~$4K off my LC trim without negotiating, it was the advertised price.

 
We don't get the stock that the US gets. In fact the Toyota dealerships in my area literally have less than a handful of new vehicles. Most of what they have on the lot is either pre-ordered, or used. Very different than what I'm seeing in the States.
That is how we are in a number of Midwest and mountainous States here.

A lot of people want the Land Cruiser name and certain mountain and snow States require it to get around easily. So the dealers that have Land Cruisers in inventory don't have them for long and they bring a premium. It has been that way for many years.
 
In the Midwest, including even Chicago, there are very, very few LC trims available. The only 2024 LC trims I see were dealer demos and have 2,500 miles or more on them. They are listed at or well above MSRP and selling.
Non Toyota dealers who have somehow got their hands on a low mile pre-owned model are absolutely insane on price....well over MSRP.

Toyota is not producing a high volume of Land Cruisers. This is something they have always done and it works effectively to keep them somewhat rare and keeps their prices high.
Though the production volumes aren’t Camry-like, Toyota has sold over 20,000 LCs for the first 10 months of ‘24 in the US. For last 10 years of the 200 series LC, annual US sales was consistently less than 4000. That’s a significant increase.
 
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