2024 landcruiser 1958 sold

[OzLC]

I didn’t think I’d sell this vehicle because I loved it so much, but its the little things that started getting to me. This mostly pertains to the 1958.

Small infotainment
No lumbar support
Garbage rear camera quality
Vibrating side mirrors (seems to be all)
Hard erratic trans shifts (applies to all)
Clunky braking
Low speed throttle control
-Random low speed high rpms

Half these issues can be addressed with software and I hope they are, but I'm not going to cross my fingers as Toyota has a lot on there plate with all the Tundra issues. Also this same transmission is on the tacoma’s. We all know how many issues those are having.

For a car to be this new with erratic shifting issues is a bit scary. Feels like im playing Russian roulette with the transmission. Albeit I had warranty on it so it would have been fine regardless, but the stripped down 1958 just started feeling like a rip off the more i drove it. Its just not what you expect from a 60k car. I probably would have kept it longer if i had a higher trim.

I had the higher trim, (LC Premium) for two months and 2K miles before I sold it. It is a great highway ride and looks to be very well made. But, most of my driving is in town and I think the hybrid system is terrible in stop and go driving for many of the same reasons you identified. I expected more from a Toyota, and a $72K one at that.

 

[RideWithYanu]

I had the higher trim, (LC Premium) for two months and 2K miles before I sold it. It is a great highway ride and looks to be very well made. But, most of my driving is in town and I think the hybrid system is terrible in stop and go driving for many of the same reasons you identified. I expected more from a Toyota, and a $72K one at that.

You bought a Land Cruiser as a city commuter car. That’s pretty funny. The Prius is probably more aligned to the utility you need and the price you expect.

 

[Altitude]

To me, the 1958 seems to have had a lot of expected features removed to hit a price point. It’s not so much the base model as it is the “base minus” model. There are people who are totally OK with that compromise, some in this thread. I don’t judge but I would not want a 1958 myself.

My LC shifts flawlessly and I don’t feel any untoward throttle action. I drive mine back and forth between Castle Rock and Avon, CO which involves two mountain passes and every possible variety of road condition. I’m another one of those people who obsessively gears down for downhills, but then again I did get 115,000 miles on a single set of brakes in my 2016 Tahoe. The LC drives great in the mountains and feels far smaller than the Tahoe did in a good way.

Just drove the LC back down the hill yesterday in a snowstorm. Blizzak DM-V2s for anyone interested, and they do deliver. The bad news is that it took an hour and a half to get the 12 miles from Silverthorne to the Eisenhower Tunnel. Not uncommon for those conditions and a holiday weekend but no fun anyway. The good news is that the Traffic Jam Assist worked a charm! Except when there was too much snow on the road for the car to see the lanes, not its fault.

Right now my largest issue with the vehicle is that I can’t fit into the Lionshead parking garage with my skis on the top. I have to rethink my rack situation. Otherwise I love the truck.

 

[RideWithYanu]

I’m glad that the 1958 exists for the people who want the lower price and/or fewer features. No sweat off my back, and certainly no judgment; it’s just a truck at the end of the day.

 

[Nuke]

In our case, an elderly couple, our only vehicle, occasional off-roading, so definitely the LC/LC/Premium.

 

[RideWithYanu]

In our case, an elderly couple, our only vehicle, occasional off-roading, so definitely the LC/LC/Premium.

That’s what I opted for as well.

 

[LC_DFW]

I had the higher trim, (LC Premium) for two months and 2K miles before I sold it. It is a great highway ride and looks to be very well made. But, most of my driving is in town and I think the hybrid system is terrible in stop and go driving for many of the same reasons you identified. I expected more from a Toyota, and a $72K one at that.

Everyone bitching about MPGs need to understand that the hybrid system in the cold weather will hit your MPGs by 25-30%. In TX, where we experience all 4 seasons in 1 day. MY LCLC will be giving me 18MPG in the cold mornings and when the sun is out and its gets in the 60s I will be in the 22-24MPG

 

[Nuke]

Everyone bitching about MPGs need to understand that the hybrid system in the cold weather will hit your MPGs by 25-30%. In TX, where we experience all 4 seasons in 1 day. MY LCLC will be giving me 18MPG in the cold mornings and when the sun is out and its gets in the 60s I will be in the 22-24MPG

One factor is that in cold weather, as the interior and engine are coming up temperature, the ICE will not be shutting off. Also, cold fluids, rolling resistance, etc. It all adds up. Speaking of lost range in winter, thank goodness we don't own an EV!

 

[MJE]

To me, the 1958 seems to have had a lot of expected features removed to hit a price point. It’s not so much the base model as it is the “base minus” model. There are people who are totally OK with that compromise, some in this thread. I don’t judge but I would not want a 1958 myself.

I have to agree, at least from sitting in them so far, this is the way I see it too. The underlying goodness of the truck speaks to a design for a high price point. You can remove a few things (1958) or add a few (premium) without fundamentally altering the design brief. Contrast that with other manufacturers where their loaded models feel like a base model car that had the option book thrown at them. The vehicle overall feels like it was designed to hit a lower price point because in base form it is a lower price, if that makes sense.

 

[TakaraLC]

One factor is that in cold weather, as the interior and engine are coming up temperature, the ICE will not be shutting off. Also, cold fluids, rolling resistance, etc. It all adds up. Speaking of lost range in winter, thank goodness we don't own an EV!

Air resistance makes a massive difference at highway speeds as well. For every 10º F drop in temperature, aerodynamic drag increases by 2%. Every 2% increase in aerodynamic drag results in a 1% decrease in fuel economy.

 

[Nuke]

Air resistance makes a massive difference at highway speeds as well. For every 10º F drop in temperature, aerodynamic drag increases by 2%. Every 2% increase in aerodynamic drag results in a 1% decrease in fuel economy.

Good point! Never thought about the increased drag in winter. Probably wet roads also make a difference?

 

[thoswhitesq]

I don’t really understand posts like this. I think the 1958 is deliberately light on features because there are a lot of people (including me) that like simpler vehicles and are quite happy to pay less for them . It was in my budget and I paid cash. If you want more, pay more, but know that the driving experience is the same.

OP: The transmission is the same in all trims. Would spending $70k for more soft touch and different seats have really made you keep the car longer? Seems like it was always going to be a mismatch for you.

I think it’s pretty cool that they offer a range of packages to suit different preferences. The whole point of a cruiser is that it’s super durable and relatively no/low frills. That was even true for the “luxury” 200 series when you compare it to other vehicles in its class (and maybe why it wasn’t too popular). When you buy a cruiser, regardless of trim, you’re paying a premium for the stuff that actually matters for its intended purpose, not pretense. Despite the good on-road manners of the 250, it’s still not a mainstream vehicle and it’s not priced like one.

 

[gxsandiego]

Let's keep in mind that the LC and GX were designed and built for on/off-roading and leans heavily towards off-roading. So if your buying it for an everyday vehicle it's probably not the right fit. I have a GX Overtrail and my wife has a RAV4 Hybrid. I use my GX strictly for off-roading with an occasional trip to Costco. It's MPG is terrible but I love to drive it. The RAV4 is a great practical vehicle but not fun to drive. It's great for around town and short trips and averages around 40 MPG. I couldn't see us using the GX or an LC, as the daily household workhorse.