17" SCS F5 wheels installed

thehardway · Jul 6, 2024

I had a set of 17x8.5 -10 SCS F5 wheels with 265/70 Vredestein Pizza AT tires sitting around (meant for a 4runner build that never happened) so threw them on our new 1958 today. A little more poke than ideal but they look great and weigh about 10 lbs less each than the stock wheels & tires. The ride is noticeably better now with more sidewall and less unsprung weight.

They fit with plenty of clearance. There's still 5/8" between the caliper and the barrel at the closest point. At full steering lock there's still about 1" of clearance both directions even with the super low offset wheels. Obviously it will depend on the specific wheels & tires but I would think most 17s should fit no problem with similar sized tires on stock suspension.

The F5s really enhance the retro vibes of the 1958 unlike the terrible looking stock wheels it came with. It just needs some ~1.5" fender flares to be perfect.

Hopefully this is helpful to anyone else looking to fit 17s

coryten · Jul 7, 2024

thehardway said:
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I had a set of 17x8.5 -10 SCS F5 wheels with 265/70 Vredestein Pizza AT tires sitting around (meant for a 4runner build that never happened) so threw them on our new 1958 today. A little more poke than ideal but they look great and weigh about 10 lbs less each than the stock wheels & tires. The ride is noticeably better now with more sidewall and less unsprung weight.

They fit with plenty of clearance. There's still 5/8" between the caliper and the barrel at the closest point. At full steering lock there's still about 1" of clearance both directions even with the super low offset wheels. Obviously it will depend on the specific wheels & tires but I would think most 17s should fit no problem with similar sized tires on stock suspension.

The F5s really enhance the retro vibes of the 1958 unlike the terrible looking stock wheels it came with. It just needs some ~1.5" fender flares to be perfect.

Hopefully this is helpful to anyone else looking to fit 17s

Thank you for posting! This is exactly what i've been looking for, was even considering these wheels before I decided to be boring and just get the Method 703's w/ +35 until something better comes out down the line.

What size tires do these measure out to? They look awfully large for what I would assume are about 32s? Cant find too much info on Vredestein tires.

thehardway · Jul 7, 2024

coryten said:
Thank you for posting! This is exactly what i've been looking for, was even considering these wheels before I decided to be boring and just get the Method 703's w/ +35 until something better comes out down the line.

What size tires do these measure out to? They look awfully large for what I would assume are about 32s? Cant find too much info on Vredestein tires.

Yeah the Methods will fit a little nicer for sure.

These Vredestein tires are around 31 3/4" tall so just a bit taller than the stock tires on the 1958. They probably just look big in the photo because they're 17s and have more sidewall.

They're great tires if you drive mainly on road but still want something capable off-road and also great in rain and snow. They're a European brand that only started being sold in North America a few years ago but are excellent tires. Vredestein does all their manufacturing in the Netherlands and are one of the oldest tire makers (~110 years), they're just a new brand over here.

BigMF · Jul 17, 2024

coryten said:
Thank you for posting! This is exactly what i've been looking for, was even considering these wheels before I decided to be boring and just get the Method 703's w/ +35 until something better comes out down the line.

What size tires do these measure out to? They look awfully large for what I would assume are about 32s? Cant find too much info on Vredestein tires.

FYI, TireRack carries that brand.

Stage7 · Sep 14, 2024

thehardway said:
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I had a set of 17x8.5 -10 SCS F5 wheels with 265/70 Vredestein Pizza AT tires sitting around (meant for a 4runner build that never happened) so threw them on our new 1958 today. A little more poke than ideal but they look great and weigh about 10 lbs less each than the stock wheels & tires. The ride is noticeably better now with more sidewall and less unsprung weight.

They fit with plenty of clearance. There's still 5/8" between the caliper and the barrel at the closest point. At full steering lock there's still about 1" of clearance both directions even with the super low offset wheels. Obviously it will depend on the specific wheels & tires but I would think most 17s should fit no problem with similar sized tires on stock suspension.

The F5s really enhance the retro vibes of the 1958 unlike the terrible looking stock wheels it came with. It just needs some ~1.5" fender flares to be perfect.

Hopefully this is helpful to anyone else looking to fit 17s

I love the SCS F5 wheels. I had a set on my 2010 4Runner build and they were great. I only wish they offered some more options with the offset. I don't want to poke out past the fenders on the LC. Also, I just moved to New Hampshire where you could fail a safety inspection for to much poke.

thehardway · Sep 14, 2024

Stage7 said:
I love the SCS F5 wheels. I had a set on my 2010 4Runner build and they were great. I only wish they offered some more options with the offset. I don't want to poke out past the fenders on the LC. Also, I just moved to New Hampshire where you could fail a safety inspection for to much poke.

I'm also in NH! I only had the SCS f5 on for a test fit since I had them kicking around. I got some 17x8 +20 Bradley V wheels from Japan now which the SCS F5 are styled after. I had to bore out the lug holes on the 17" ones I got to fit the 14mm lugs on the LC. Apparently 4x4 engineering just released 18" Bradley V wheels in LC specific fitment. SCS may also come out with some to fit the LC I would expect.

mkg · Sep 15, 2024

Any head on photos to show how much they poke out at +20?

coryten · Sep 15, 2024

mkg said:
Any head on photos to show how much they poke out at +20?

There was another thread in here the other day showing +20, should be fairly recent.

mkg · Sep 15, 2024

I ordered the exact same wheels, but in the 18x8.5, +20 offset, so it was more so pics of this specific setup...

the usarian · Sep 15, 2024

mkg said:
I ordered the exact same wheels, but in the 18x8.5, +20 offset, so it was more so pics of this specific setup...

Throw some pics up once you get them on, I'd love to see them.

mkg · Sep 15, 2024

Probably won't be till spring.. it was a preorder so I'm guessing late October delivery and that will be winter tire time.

thehardway · Sep 17, 2024

mkg said:
Any head on photos to show how much they poke out at +20?

Here's a couple better pics showing the slight poke with 17x8 +20 wheels and 285/70 tires.

SOCAL250 · Sep 27, 2024

Im actually thinking of getting this exact setup you have. Any mods to the suspension and does it clear everything even at full compression? The wheels have the exact looks im looking for including poke.

thehardway · Sep 28, 2024

spateld said:
Im actually thinking of getting this exact setup you have. Any mods to the suspension and does it clear everything even at full compression? The wheels have the exact looks im looking for including poke.

I haven't had it fully articulated but steering clearances are all good. Be aware that the first SCS f5 wheels in this thread do poke out a lot and aren't ideal. For the 17x8 +20 Bradley V wheels from Japan which I'm running now I had to bore out the lug holes on the 17" ones I got to fit the 14mm lugs on the LC. These wheels will not even fit on the LC without having them machined and enlarging the diameter of the lug holes as they were designed to just slip snugly on 12mm lugs. Apparently 4x4 engineering just released new 18" Bradley V wheels in LC specific fitment but not sure when they will start shipping (mkg mentioned above that they probably won't ship till next spring/summer) . SCS may also come out with some with the right offset to fit the LC so it may be worth checking with them.

mkg · Sep 28, 2024

Bradley was actually fast at manufacturing and shipping! Granted I ordered directly from Japan. These are the 18x8.5, et 20 with 14mm lug fitment. Arrived yesterday, but won't mount till Spring. Snow comes in just over a month, so holding off.

thehardway · Sep 28, 2024

mkg said:
Bradley was actually fast at manufacturing and shipping! Granted I ordered directly from Japan. These are the 18x8.5, et 20 with 14mm lug fitment. Arrived yesterday, but won't mount till Spring. Snow comes in just over a month, so holding off.

Damn they don't mess around! Those look great

SOCAL250 · Oct 4, 2024

thehardway said:
Damn they don't mess around! Those look great

What color are the F5's? Im guessing Matte Gunmetal.

Would you know what the difference between the F5's and Gen5's? they look the same.

mkg · Oct 4, 2024

F5s have rounded edges ala Bradley V, Gen 5s have squared edges like the Bradley Forged Takumi.

Takumi below, my Bradley Vs a few posts up.

SCS wheels at the bottom.

thehardway · Oct 4, 2024

spateld said:
What color are the F5's? Im guessing Matte Gunmetal.

Would you know what the difference between the F5's and Gen5's? they look the same.

MKG nailed the differences in his reply above. Yes my SCS F5s at the top of the thread are the Matte Gunmetal colour.

Stage7 · Oct 4, 2024

thehardway said:
MKG nailed the differences in his reply above. Yes my SCS F5s at the top of the thread are the Matte Gunmetal colour.

Are the Bradley's hub centric like the SCS wheels?

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