Wifi/Carplay/AA/Toyota Subscriptions

Don’t you need the data plan when you use these “remote” control features like lock/unlocked/climate… etc? I also have multiple devices like tablet and dashcam… etc that requires networks to be fully functional so I decided to pay for it anyway. But that is potentially replaceable by a hotspot modem later so I think at some point I might drop it too.
 
If I understand it correctly, it operates basically like the following:

The vehicle needs a cellular connection to provide connected services and has built in antenna/transmitter, gps, and telemetrics hardware. After your trial period, you must purchase a service plan from Toyota for one or more of the connected services which includes the basic cellular connectivity from AT&T to the car in order to provide the features to the vehicle and paired smartphone app.

In addition, the wi-fi connect service sold separately or within a bndle also provides a wi-fi network within the vehicle and enables it to operate as a shared hot spot. Some of the added benefits include the ability to connect up to five devices (phones, laptops, tablets etc.) with different operating systems (IOS/Android, MacOS/Windows/Linux), a separate dedicated phone number for the vehicle, a high performance 4G consolidated cellular connection, unlimited data plans, integrated streaming with Apple and Amazon, and all the other things you can do with a shared network.
 
The only reason for the Wi-Fi subscription is for Apple or Amazon music, and to use as a hotspot. Your phone cannot be used as a hotspot if you are using wireless CarPlay or android play because they set up a Peer to Peer Wi-Fi network that is invisible on your phone, but makes the Wi-Fi appear disabled.

In the multimedia manual, chapter 7 describes which services use the different types of data your car supplies. There is a cellular connection in your car that works with service connect and remote connect and other things which may or may not require a subscription. This is referred to as DCM data.
 
I have an iPhone 11 Pro (I know, I know :LOL: ) and no subscriptions. I have an unlimited data plan and just use that. No need for anything else as far as I know to get remote start, locking, etc. to work and to use Carplay.

The only thing I do notice is that after using remote start, I see the weird "WiFi connection interrupted, try again" message. I hit retry, and then it goes away. If it reconnects then Carplay works fine (after about a 10 second pause..assuming it's reconnecting), if not, I go into the settings for my profile and enable the "use for Carplay" slider and all is fine.

Not sure if this helps anyone, but I was stuck on "why can't I use carplay after remote starting" and figured out that it seems like if that wifi connection is lost and doesn't reconnect you have to get into your settings and re-enable it.
 
I have an iPhone 11 Pro (I know, I know :LOL: ) and no subscriptions. I have an unlimited data plan and just use that. No need for anything else as far as I know to get remote start, locking, etc. to work and to use Carplay.

The only thing I do notice is that after using remote start, I see the weird "WiFi connection interrupted, try again" message. I hit retry, and then it goes away. If it reconnects then Carplay works fine (after about a 10 second pause..assuming it's reconnecting), if not, I go into the settings for my profile and enable the "use for Carplay" slider and all is fine.

Not sure if this helps anyone, but I was stuck on "why can't I use carplay after remote starting" and figured out that it seems like if that wifi connection is lost and doesn't reconnect you have to get into your settings and re-enable it.
After a remote start you have to go here and re-enable
 

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Yes to what Captain wrote above, that’s what I do and it works.

What confuses me is that sometimes I have to this and sometimes I don’t. Sometimes CarPlay just works with no need to go to settings.

What I can’t figure out is why it needs to be turned back on in settings and sometimes. If I understood what is causing the difference, maybe I could always connect automatically. I suspect the difference is when I am patient and wait, if I get it, for the Toyota app to ask if I want the app to connect.
 
I have this problem every time I do remote start. As mentioned above, I usually just enable Use CarPlay, and it works, but this morning, it didn't work, and now I can't get CarPlay to work at all. Even after restarting the car and forgetting the device. It is annoying.
 
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