The main issue I saw with 17s isn’t brake clearance, but the lack of many options for higher +40 offset or greater.
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Those are a +70 offset right so the factory FE wheels should work as well. DId you have to move any brackets?
BFG Ko3, 275/70/18's
I grew up many miles from the nearest paved road, and getting mud with embedded gravel caked inside the wheels wasn't that unusual at least a few days a year. Probably will never happen to me now, but that's what makes me nervous about getting 17" wheels.
Genuine question here: Have you ever seen or known this to cause any problem on any vehicle ever?
I've never had a 4WD vehicle with only a few mm clearance from the inside of the wheel to the brakes. Toyota thinks it needs more space, I'm going to trust them on this based on my own experience.
That's awesome. Completely stock? No lift or anything? As someone asked before me, did you move brackets or anything?
My 17" wheels have way more than a few millimeters of clearance. The front brakes have more clearance than the rear with my 703s. Without taking an actual measurement, I'd estimate 1/2"-3/4" clearance on both the front and back.
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Rear Caliper pic
Yes, stick with no lift. I did remove the mud flaps and the bracket from the rear fender well. I do have a 30mm spacer which puts me at approximately +40 offset. This is temporary while I wait for wheels to come in
I see, so it's essentially a +40. I was wondering because an all stock setup with 285/75R18s would be rub city.
You are correct, but with the wheel spacers, it really works perfect. If I had it to do over, I would have got 35x11.5r18s, which are essentially the exact same size but there are options that are much lighter. This tire is heavy! I took almost a 7mpg hit. I don’t have that big a drop when I put 37s on my Broncos. I originally wanted to put 37s on this one once more lift options are out but I think I will stay at 35s
That's funny since the Method folks told me 5-6mm for their wheels! You've got at least twice that.
Yeah, but the Falken C load is just as heavy if not heavier than some of the other E load tires. Crazy!
Yes, definitely in the 10-20 mm range for space.
Looks great! How're you doing for fuel economy?
What wheels are these?
That's a big drop in MPG. I just ordered the same size tire with the new ICON offset wheels. I didn't think it would have that big of a change on the MPGs.
For those of you considering the Nitto Terra Grappler G3 (SL) in 275/70/18. I have 500 miles on them mounted on the Tacoma TRD 18 inch wheels with +45 offset. Switched out of the OEM 20 inch wheels and Dunlop Grandtrek with 2500 miles. I was averaging 23.4 on the Dunlops mostly mixed driving. In 500 miles on the Nitto’s averaging 22.7 over the same commute. From a noise perspective the Nitto’s do have a very slight increase in tire noise vs the Dunlops. I don’t think most people will notice, but it is still there. I would say that Nitto did a good job in engineering the noise out of the tire given its profile. If you are sensitive to tire noise , I think these tires are great in that department. Regarding feel, Nitto’s are a little more damped with the extra sidewall coming from the 20’s to 18’s which I like since I felt the Dunlop 20’s were a little harsh over small bumps and broken pavement. The Nitto’s are slightly slower on turn in with the extra sidewall, but I feel it matches the stock suspension nicely and it feels just right. Handling is still really good. According to Nitto the G3 has a tougher sidewall than the previous model. My off-road consists of BLM roads, Onion Creek, Potash Rd etc. So going with the SL and retaining the MPG at the expense of a lighter tire off-road was a choice. Time will tell. I had the Cooper AT3 4S in SL on my 4Runner for years and never had a problem. Also, no rubbing, no lift, stock suspension. Sorry for the long review, but some members mentioned there wasn’t a lot of real world info on these tires.
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