Thank you! Geez……Lets see:
60-80K $ USD or your local equivalent for a new high tech Cruiser.
Premium or cheaper fluids and fuel?????
.Amazes me how long this has gone on.
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Thank you! Geez……Lets see:
60-80K $ USD or your local equivalent for a new high tech Cruiser.
Premium or cheaper fluids and fuel?????
.Amazes me how long this has gone on.
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… as has been reported many times on this forum..The 2024 Tocoma info sheet lists the recommended fuel as 87 or higher for the I force Max. I attached a screenshot. Odd that there would be a difference between the Taco and the LC?
Thanks for the feedback. I still need to get a better handle on navigating this forum. Is that a GS in your picture. Nice ride. I have a 2011 R1200RT. Love it… as has been reported many times on this forum..
Welcome to the asylum ct1958.
It’s a 2011 GS Adventure, with custom paint job. It was canary yellow when I picked it out on the dealer’s lot. It was a coin toss on the GS Adventure, vs the RT.Thanks for the feedback. I still need to get a better handle on navigating this forum. Is that a GS in your picture. Nice ride. I have a 2011 R1200RT. Love it
I will keep that I mind if I get a 4Runner.2025 4Runners videos are out and the recommended fuel for iforcemax is regular.
I would be curious if that is actually true. Seems peculiar to me and they You Tubes typically aren't into details.2025 4Runners videos are out and the recommended fuel for iforcemax is regular.
Why would that be peculiar to you, when the iforce max in the Tacoma does the same? The Land Cruiser is the confusing one.I would be curious if that is actually true. Seems peculiar to me and they You Tubes typically aren't into details.
Correct, except for tuning.In the recent 4Runner review Youtube vidoe by Driving Sports TV, the narrator claimed he asked Toyota and they said the reason for the premium gas requirement on the land cruiser and not the 4Runner was the land cruiser is sold into more international markets where premium is the standard. So each vehicle is apparently tuned slightly differently.
I don't really think anyone in the world actually knows why?Why would that be peculiar to you, when the iforce max in the Tacoma does the same? The Land Cruiser is the confusing one.
I don't really think anyone in the world actually knows why?
How about this.....the Land Cruiser is significantly heavier, taller, sexier, and just an overall significantly better truck. Hence, it requires better fuel. Sounds logical to me. So Premium fuel it is.
It's akin to dating/being married to a well-educated, well-polished woman. She gets hungry just like the trashy frizzy haired blonde in the Miss Me bedazzled skin tight jeans and tube top woman. However, you're not taking her to the local sports bars for buffalo wings, beer, and NFL games. Its just the way it is.
Honestly, can you please share a link where they have said that the LC has a specific tuning hence it requires premium gas.Good grief… This has been said a lot already but the engine in the LC requires premium gas due to the tuning. It doesn’t matter if the 4Runner or Tacoma run on farts and fairy dust.
Run 87 at your own risk, but don’t complain when you have issues.
On the other hand, the chief engineer of Tacoma/4Runner said in an interview that Land Cruiser must be able to run on any fuel, anywhere in the world, and would pull timing as to not damage itself.In the recent 4Runner review Youtube vidoe by Driving Sports TV, the narrator claimed he asked Toyota and they said the reason for the premium gas requirement on the land cruiser and not the 4Runner was the land cruiser is sold into more international markets where premium is the standard. So each vehicle is apparently tuned slightly differently.
This is not true. Coming from the Ford performance world an engine tune makes a world of difference. Specific tunes are designed to extract extra HP out of the engine versus the basic stock tune. Yes, using 93 octane on a car designed to run on 87 isn’t the end of the world. Though you will have issues running 87 on a vehicle designed to run on premium. Even page 640 of the owners manual states that you could run into engine knocking using improper octane.There's also no reason to tune a car for a specific octane in modern times-- modern ECUs pull/advance timing and adjust fueling to optimize for whatever fuel you put in them.