Premium Fuel or not?

The 2024 Tocoma info sheet lists the recommended fuel as 87 or higher for the I force Max. I attached a screenshot. Odd that there would be a difference between the Taco and the LC?
 

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The 2024 Tocoma info sheet lists the recommended fuel as 87 or higher for the I force Max. I attached a screenshot. Odd that there would be a difference between the Taco and the LC?
… as has been reported many times on this forum..

Welcome to the asylum ct1958.
 
Thanks for the feedback. I still need to get a better handle on navigating this forum. Is that a GS in your picture. Nice ride. I have a 2011 R1200RT. Love it
It’s a 2011 GS Adventure, with custom paint job. It was canary yellow when I picked it out on the dealer’s lot. It was a coin toss on the GS Adventure, vs the RT.
 
2025 4Runners videos are out and the recommended fuel for iforcemax is regular.
I would be curious if that is actually true. Seems peculiar to me and they You Tubes typically aren't into details.
 
In the recent 4Runner review Youtube vidoe by Driving Sports TV, the narrator claimed he asked Toyota and they said the reason for the premium gas requirement on the land cruiser and not the 4Runner was the land cruiser is sold into more international markets where premium is the standard. So each vehicle is apparently tuned slightly differently.
 
In the recent 4Runner review Youtube vidoe by Driving Sports TV, the narrator claimed he asked Toyota and they said the reason for the premium gas requirement on the land cruiser and not the 4Runner was the land cruiser is sold into more international markets where premium is the standard. So each vehicle is apparently tuned slightly differently.
Correct, except for tuning.
 
Why would that be peculiar to you, when the iforce max in the Tacoma does the same? The Land Cruiser is the confusing one.
I don't really think anyone in the world actually knows why?

How about this.....the Land Cruiser is significantly heavier, taller, sexier, and just an overall significantly better truck. Hence, it requires better fuel. Sounds logical to me. So Premium fuel it is.

It's akin to dating/being married to a well-educated, well-polished woman. She gets hungry just like the trashy frizzy haired blonde in the Miss Me bedazzled skin tight jeans and tube top woman. However, you're not taking her to the local sports bars for buffalo wings, beer, and NFL games. Its just the way it is.
 
I don't really think anyone in the world actually knows why?

How about this.....the Land Cruiser is significantly heavier, taller, sexier, and just an overall significantly better truck. Hence, it requires better fuel. Sounds logical to me. So Premium fuel it is.

It's akin to dating/being married to a well-educated, well-polished woman. She gets hungry just like the trashy frizzy haired blonde in the Miss Me bedazzled skin tight jeans and tube top woman. However, you're not taking her to the local sports bars for buffalo wings, beer, and NFL games. Its just the way it is.

That was well said! I want to keep my sexy, well-polished woman, sexy LC, for the long term. So, it's worth the extra expense, even if it is only marginally beneficial.
 
Good grief… This has been said a lot already but the engine in the LC requires premium gas due to the tuning. It doesn’t matter if the 4Runner or Tacoma run on farts and fairy dust.

Run 87 at your own risk, but don’t complain when you have issues.
 
Good grief… This has been said a lot already but the engine in the LC requires premium gas due to the tuning. It doesn’t matter if the 4Runner or Tacoma run on farts and fairy dust.

Run 87 at your own risk, but don’t complain when you have issues.
Honestly, can you please share a link where they have said that the LC has a specific tuning hence it requires premium gas.
 
In the recent 4Runner review Youtube vidoe by Driving Sports TV, the narrator claimed he asked Toyota and they said the reason for the premium gas requirement on the land cruiser and not the 4Runner was the land cruiser is sold into more international markets where premium is the standard. So each vehicle is apparently tuned slightly differently.
On the other hand, the chief engineer of Tacoma/4Runner said in an interview that Land Cruiser must be able to run on any fuel, anywhere in the world, and would pull timing as to not damage itself.

Also, the international markets having more premium gas thing is bunk-- they just have a different rating scale. 92 RON (European scale) has the same knock resistance as 87 octane (US scale). If anything, there's lots of parts of the world where 87 octane (or lower) is the only option.

There's also no reason to tune a car for a specific octane in modern times-- modern ECUs pull/advance timing and adjust fueling/boost to optimize for whatever fuel you put in them.
 
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There's also no reason to tune a car for a specific octane in modern times-- modern ECUs pull/advance timing and adjust fueling to optimize for whatever fuel you put in them.
This is not true. Coming from the Ford performance world an engine tune makes a world of difference. Specific tunes are designed to extract extra HP out of the engine versus the basic stock tune. Yes, using 93 octane on a car designed to run on 87 isn’t the end of the world. Though you will have issues running 87 on a vehicle designed to run on premium. Even page 640 of the owners manual states that you could run into engine knocking using improper octane.
 
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