Thanks for sharing. There are more and more inventory. Sounds like dealers aren’t selling as quickly as they thought with markups.
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Unless it’s a First Edition they will be selling at or below msrp before end of year jMHO.
The only badging that I have seen stating FE is on the door trim and mud flaps . Not much to distinguish it .
I have had mine for 2 full days so far FE , not as nice and plush as my 1794 Tundra , much smaller inside . In hindsight if I had not thought the FE was going to be something special should have just bout a 1958 base model and set it up for hunting and Offroad .
Would have saved my $30,000
Congratulations!
I purchased a 1958 off the lot Friday for straight MSRP at a dealership just outside of DC - no pre-order or reservation. I had an existing order at another dealership (at MSRP) that has been delayed so when I saw this other one pop up I jumped on it.
If anyone in the DC area is looking for a 1958 in Meteor Shower let me know and I can refer you to the other dealership - thy expect the vehicle to arrive between 6/25 & 7/12 - hopefully they'll stick to MSRP.
If anyone in the DC area is looking for a 1958 in Meteor Shower let me know and I can refer you to the other dealership - thy expect the vehicle to arrive between 6/25 & 7/12 - hopefully they'll stick to MSRP.
Sorry for ignorant question, but what is Smartpath and how do I check it?
It's the "Search Invetory" tab on toyota.com: Toyota Inventory | New Toyota Inventory Search
Dealer removed me off their list because I wanted to decline their in-house ppf stuff. Wondering if it's worth the 2 grand to get the car or wait and see what happens after summer.
I’ve been poking around on gx’s since I’m being impatient and the dealers keep hitting me up dropping their markups. One that had a $15k markup on top of the $8k dealer installed accessories, is down to msrp + dealer installed accessories. I told them I don’t need or want any of the accessories and they are checking what they can do. The same sort of thing happened when I was originally looking at first editions and before I had found my LC trim at no markup.
I don’t think these are selling at the clip they expected - stay strong and I bet msrp can be normal in a few months (esp once the qc hold lifts).
I don’t think these are selling at the clip they expected - stay strong and I bet msrp can be normal in a few months (esp once the qc hold lifts).
Yesterday I heard from a dealer I’ve used before. He has a Premium Trail Dust coming in. Did I want it at MSRP with zero dealer-installed nonsense. Haha, hell yes I did! Now it has to clear that port-hold issue.
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Good deal and great color.
Had a dealer call me yesterday but still wanted a $2500 mark up. In So Cal. Told him I’ll wait.
Had a dealer call me yesterday but still wanted a $2500 mark up. In So Cal. Told him I’ll wait.
I was contacted by a dealer for a FE that the previous deposit was rescinded. I said great I'll take it. Salesman said $5k uncharge AND a $1500 'inspection fee' since it was their first LC. I said I'll wait. They said they would check to see if they could get the 5k down. Never heard back from them. I would really rather have the LC grade so won't pay more than MRSP for a FE. I'm in no hurry. Only thing so far I've notice is all LC editions have the extra fee 20" wheels, which I don't want.
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I have no desire to own a FE LC, or the 1958. I will predict that the headlight performance of the triple projector beam rectangular headlights will be better than the round single projector base model lights. I drive at night a lot in an area with large wildlife, so headlight performance is near the top of the must have list for my use.
I’ve seen a few of LC trim with Premium Package and 18” wheels and that is what I will try to find next year when I hope to be ready to buy.
I’ve seen a few of LC trim with Premium Package and 18” wheels and that is what I will try to find next year when I hope to be ready to buy.
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So Cal dealer called me yesterday. LC w Prem. No markup. Just 5k for an alarm and PPF. Paint prot film. I declined. No problem waiting. My 07 4 runner running strong
SO maddening! I found an LC Trim w/ PP, roof rack and 18's that fit my wants perfectly at a certain dealer in a college town outside of Denver that advertised MSRP on their site. I talked back and forth with the salesman making it clear that I would not pay over MSRP and had multiple options at dealers with clear "MSRP only" policies. He passed me off to his Sales Manager who schooled me in "supply and demand" and said he would easily get the additional 10K dealer adjustment that he was asking. I gave him a few examples of First Editions being offered at MSRP and asked why he thought his $70K mid-level trim was worth $3K more than the MSRP of a First Edition.
He said he might be able to work with me if I was "local, had a trade, and finance with them", but even then would only drop the markup by a little. I told him that MSRP was actually a real thing with other dealers, but he didn't believe it and said the Land Cruiser would "always be a commodity, limited in production and command a premium". I politely thanked him for his time as ultimately it's his business.
I couldn't believe my ears when the salesman said they sold to a lot of "stupid rich people" and they would easily sell their Land Cruisers for big profits.
I can't wait until the QC hold is released and the market is flooded with these "rare and hard to find"
Land Cruisers and he's having to face reality. In the meantime, I've got one reserved with one of the few honest dealers that still exist and plan to modify the things I want (add roof rack, 20" wheels swap for 18's) after purchase.
FWIW - This same dealer was recently called out for their practices in a YouTube video about the Land Cruiser by "TFL".
He said he might be able to work with me if I was "local, had a trade, and finance with them", but even then would only drop the markup by a little. I told him that MSRP was actually a real thing with other dealers, but he didn't believe it and said the Land Cruiser would "always be a commodity, limited in production and command a premium". I politely thanked him for his time as ultimately it's his business.
I couldn't believe my ears when the salesman said they sold to a lot of "stupid rich people" and they would easily sell their Land Cruisers for big profits.
I can't wait until the QC hold is released and the market is flooded with these "rare and hard to find"
Land Cruisers and he's having to face reality. In the meantime, I've got one reserved with one of the few honest dealers that still exist and plan to modify the things I want (add roof rack, 20" wheels swap for 18's) after purchase.FWIW - This same dealer was recently called out for their practices in a YouTube video about the Land Cruiser by "TFL".
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Name and shame so others know who to not do business with.
My 1999 SR5 came from a Little Rock dealership in March of 1999. Wonder who your dealer is. My purchase was with Doenges Ford and Toyota. 99 still runs great. https://www.doengestoyota.com/new-vehicles/SO maddening! I found an LC Trim w/ PP, roof rack and 18's that fit my wants perfectly at a certain dealer in a college town outside of Denver that advertised MSRP on their site. I talked back and forth with the salesman making it clear that I would not pay over MSRP and had multiple options at dealers with clear "MSRP only" policies. He passed me off to his Sales Manager who schooled me in "supply and demand" and said he would easily get the additional 10K dealer adjustment that he was asking. I gave him a few examples of First Editions being offered at MSRP and asked why he thought his $70K mid-level trim was worth $3K more than the MSRP of a First Edition.
He said he might be able to work with me if I was "local, had a trade, and finance with them", but even then would only drop the markup by a little. I told him that MSRP was actually a real thing with other dealers, but he didn't believe it and said the Land Cruiser would "always be a commodity, limited in production and command a premium". I politely thanked him for his time as ultimately it's his business.
I couldn't believe my ears when the salesman said they sold to a lot of "stupid rich people" and they would easily sell their Land Cruisers for big profits.
I can't wait until the QC hold is released and the market is flooded with these "rare and hard to find"
FWIW - This same dealer was recently called out for their practices in a YouTube video about the Land Cruiser by "TFL".
I'm just waiting for them to arrive on the lots. No point trying to negotiate with terrorists when they have no hostages.
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Yep. Let the cool kids pay to be beta testers.
That’s what I did with the Gen 3 Tundra. Glad I did. Dodged a bullet there.
The wailing and gnashing of teeth on Tundra forums is epic right now. Especially the guys who probably paid over list MSRP and now can’t even trade the trucks off because no dealer wants to sit on a used truck they can’t sell because of a safety recall.
Look for some cheap 3rd Gen Tundras for sale next year with new engines. I don’t expect them to hold traditional Toyota resale value at all.
That’s what I did with the Gen 3 Tundra. Glad I did. Dodged a bullet there.
The wailing and gnashing of teeth on Tundra forums is epic right now. Especially the guys who probably paid over list MSRP and now can’t even trade the trucks off because no dealer wants to sit on a used truck they can’t sell because of a safety recall.
Look for some cheap 3rd Gen Tundras for sale next year with new engines. I don’t expect them to hold traditional Toyota resale value at all.
Or some of us could just pay MSRP at reasonable dealers and enjoy our Land Cruisers during the summer and fall.
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