Is Toyota collecting our driving data... ie speed and habits? If so.... can we turn it off?

Not liking that Toyota can record anything without my expressed written consent.

Think I may express my thoughts to my congressmen.
 
Not liking that Toyota can record anything without my expressed written consent.

Think I may express my thoughts to my congressmen.
You give consent even you select the options in the app. If you choose not to share data, it wonโ€™t record or save it.

Itโ€™s also not recording anything inside the vehicle, only exterior cameras and vehicle sensors.
 

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I might be in the minority but, IMO it should be the other way around.......... I shouldn't have to opt out of anything. No company should be able to record or track anything I own without my expressed written consent.

I also believe that if features cannot be used without my consent, I shouldn't be charged for them.
 
I might be in the minority but, IMO it should be the other way around.......... I shouldn't have to opt out of anything. No company should be able to record or track anything I own without my expressed written consent.

I also believe that if features cannot be used without my consent, I shouldn't be charged for them.
The default is opt out, you have to manually select that you want to share data.

Once you set up your LC youโ€™ll be presented with menu options for you to select which services you wish to opt in for. If you donโ€™t want to share data, donโ€™t select it.

if you blindly go through setup and say yes to everything, your data will be shared to Toyota.
 
The default is opt out, you have to manually select that you want to share data.

Once you set up your LC youโ€™ll be presented with menu options for you to select which services you wish to opt in for. If you donโ€™t want to share data, donโ€™t select it.

if you blindly go through setup and say yes to everything, your data will be shared to Toyota.
Thank you for the explanation.
 
The default is opt out, you have to manually select that you want to share data.

Once you set up your LC youโ€™ll be presented with menu options for you to select which services you wish to opt in for. If you donโ€™t want to share data, donโ€™t select it.

if you blindly go through setup and say yes to everything, your data will be shared to Toyota.
Read page 1... Says if youy buy you consent???
 

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Read page 1... Says if youy buy you concent???
When you do the initial setup, thereโ€™s a master data services consent. If you say no to that, nothing gets shared at all! Itโ€™s all explained when you set up the vehicle.

The T&C on the site is if you buy a vehicle but never set up the connected services. It has a default level of shared data for diagnostics and product improvement. As soon as you start the connected services setup, those default T&Cs are superseded by your selections during setup. This is explained in the setup fine print.
 
The default is opt out, you have to manually select that you want to share data.

Once you set up your LC youโ€™ll be presented with menu options for you to select which services you wish to opt in for. If you donโ€™t want to share data, donโ€™t select it.

if you blindly go through setup and say yes to everything, your data will be shared to Toyota.
"When you do the initial setup, thereโ€™s a master data services consent. If you say no to that, nothing gets shared at all! Itโ€™s all explained when you set up the vehicle."
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Soooooooo, They do record / track without consent. One has to preform an action to "opt out", to me it shouldn't be that way.

Not the same thing I realize....... You buy a house with an outside surveillance system that records and transmits all activity of when you come and go, and any activity that happens on your property........ unless you go through the menu and "opt out" and then did they really stop recording?

IMO, One should have to request and "opt in" to be surveilled.
 
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I went back and declined the Data Privacy Consent late last week and even uninstalled the app on my phone. It did reset all my settings to default, but I wasn't using any of the additional Toyota offerings and I'm not missing it. CarPlay and Sirius work the same so I'm just fine.
 
I went back and declined the Data Privacy Consent late last week and even uninstalled the app on my phone. It did reset all my settings to default, but I wasn't using any of the additional Toyota offerings and I'm not missing it. CarPlay and Sirius work the same so I'm just fine.
I would also go on their web site and option out... It's seems you can even request that they delete your stored data?

 
When I did that on my Taco they deleted the VIN from the system. Went to schedule an oil change and my veh could not be found. Took some doing by the maint manager but it was put back in for maint at least.
 
When I did that on my Taco they deleted the VIN from the system. Went to schedule an oil change and my veh could not be found. Took some doing by the maint manager but it was put back in for maint at least.
Ha! I went and requested that they don't share, but didn't have them delete my stored data. I'll probably let them keep my 2000 miles of driving data based on your experience!
 
I did it on the Toyota app with my phone, I got an email within a couple hours saying it was done. I deleted the app this morning.
 
Your driving style could also be discoverable in a lawsuit. These records can be subpoenaed from the corporation acting as a record holder. It is akin to an ECM on commercial semi-trucks and a "black box" on commercial airplanes. This is not information you want scrutinized by a sharp Plaintiff attorney in a lawsuit.

Additionally, all of the information in those dash cams people love so much is used against you more frequently than in your favor if an accident occurs.
It is always best to fly completely under the radar with regards to any data collected.
 
Your driving style could also be discoverable in a lawsuit. These records can be subpoenaed from the corporation acting as a record holder. It is akin to an ECM on commercial semi-trucks and a "black box" on commercial airplanes. This is not information you want scrutinized by a sharp Plaintiff attorney in a lawsuit.

Additionally, all of the information in those dash cams people love so much is used against you more frequently than in your favor if an accident occurs.
It is always best to fly completely under the radar with regards to any data collected.
You said a mouthful....... and all of it 100% true!
 
Do you think this data would be helpful to a Lawyer in a Lawsuit even if your not at fault
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Do you think this data would be helpful to a Laywer in a Lawsuit even if your not at faultView attachment 6602?
Yes. It can and will be used against you even if it is not your fault for the accident in question.
It shows your driving history. And a good Plaintiff lawyer will use it to impeach your driving as there will always be flaws in your driving style.
 
Not liking that Toyota can record anything without my expressed written consent.

Think I may express my thoughts to my congressmen.
I just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out how to start a new post. Can anyone send me a link?
My mind just isn't working right since my accident. I think it's at air leak creating that cranial cavity.

In response to what you're saying here, today there's an update for the Toyota app and now I think if you don't allow them to share with third parties, your data and location will not be sent to Toyota. Period
Is this exactly the same as it was before the update? I'm not sure, but I think it's different?

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