First oil change at 12 miles.

[ERROR504]

Thanks to all the info on here. I went in to do my first oil change at 1100. Service rep was like that’s such a waste, it’s not going to be free. Told him to just burn one and move on.

 

[Midwest Duo]

I’m inept when it comes to technology… can someone do one of those word usage graphics for this forum? I’m dying to know how big the “premium” and “oil” circles would be…

 

[Dr. M]

This glitter is only a concern if 1) you don't have a filter and 2) it is an abnormally large amount. If the latter, no level of oil changing is going to fix it because the engine is already eating the bearing and you'll be getting a new engine courtesy of Toyota's warranty department.

I was a Quality Engineer for an engine line in a past life. I've pulled the drain plugs off dozens of engines right off the end of the line and they all have this. It is totally normal. The little bits of metal from the run-in of the engine have to go somewhere. There's a strainer and a filter in the system to prevent those bits from getting to places where they actually could be dangerous.

It is also totally wild to me that people would give a car company $70k for a vehicle and not trust them to set the oil change intervals. Quality doesn't happen by accident. These OCIs are studied and confirmed and studied again. The engines are designed from the outset for these intervals which impacts sump size, how the oil is used (lubrication, actuation of VVTi, cooling, etc). If you meet specific conditions, they recommend shorter intervals because they've studied those specific conditions, too.

Thanks for this information, based on actual engineering experience in the QC domain. I personally agree that Toyota would prefer to keep its excellent reputation for quality and value, rather than become known as the car company who hands out free engine replacements. Dr. M

 

[Dr. M]

As I mentioned above, I trust Toyota to design an engine to work, for a long time; just like my 1999 Land Cruiser did. It is still running. I actually have come to like my 2024 FE LC even more than I loved our 1999 LC. Maybe it’s because I am older now, but, the idea of crawling under my FE to change oil often, make my back hurt. I spent $2,000 for the 10 year, 100,000 mile extended warranty. ONLY because this is a brand new vehicle. But, I doubt I will get my monies worth from that warranty. I have owned new Mercedes, BMW’s, Alfa Romeo, VW’s, Volvo, Genesis, Hyundai’s, Toyota’s, Jeep, Subaru’s, and Equus (look it up!) and let’s face it, AUTOMOBILES ARE NOT GOOD INVESTMENTS. We buy and drive them because we love machines. I would place Toyota near the top of that list of cars, in terms of quality control, and reliability. Change your oil often, in the driveway, if you like. But, fear-mongering about metal flakes destroying engines only scares folks who aren’t very mechanical or experienced. The new LC keeps beating the G-Wagon, LR Defender, Ineos, and Bronco, in test after test. Love it, or just buy something else. You have tons of great options.

 

[ATbuckhunter]

I did my first this past weekend at 1,350 miles. I'll change my oil every 3-5k miles. Basically once I hit 3,000, I'll just change the oil the next time I have some free time. Makes me feel better to know the oil is good. From some research im seeing, the type of gas used also has a huge impact on engine wear as well. I would have never thought it made that big of a difference, but turns out it does. I was planning on using 87 now that I'm past my break in, but might just stick with premium

 

[MAC25LC]

Pick up my LC on the 12th, looking for par number for oil filter, want to cross reference it to Donaldson Filter, also is it 0W-20 oil?

 

[EOD Guy]

MAC25LC, Welcome to the Jungle!

Oil filter part#: 90915-YZZN1
It is 0w20 full syn

 

[MAC25LC]

MAC25LC, Welcome to the Jungle!

Oil filter part#: 90915-YZZN1
It is 0w20 full syn

Thanks