agree Chris, unfortunately, here in ontario canada, most dealers will not even sell to customers the Land Cruiser. I know that one dealer - the owner will keep all land cruisers for the first 3 years. so tis supply and demand. I have agreed for 2500 above msrp to first inline and it my preorder went in 2 weeks ago to Toyota canda. im not certain I will go through with the sale though. well see