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They don’t even have different numbers. Just different specced fuel recommendations. Same stated output which makes no sense if they tuned them differently. Numbers don’t add up either on the fuel or the stated output. This is exactly why people are confused and a good argument for 87 being...

You're right. Identical numbers. Either the HP and torque numbers are different than Toyota is stating between the two vehicles when running on different octane fuel, the Taco should be running on 91 octane but Toyota lowered the number to 87 to increase sales but didn't adjust the HP and torque...

Tacoma gets a boost in towing with 6500, same HP and torque. It just adds to the confusion and is why people are curious.

The manual for the Land Cruiser states 91 octane "for optimal performance and fuel economy". They both start out by saying you must run unleaded fuel and end by stating the minimum fuel requirement is the same. The Tacoma goes further stating running less than 87 may cause engine knocking. I...

Clearly it is since we're having this discussion 🤣

All speculation referring to damaging the engine. I've never wavered in stating i think its mainly for performance in the Land Cruiser and that 87 is fine without damaging the engine since its the same engine in the Tacoma. After my post, I researched and looked up the owners manuals which...

Here is more detail from both the Land Cruiser 250 manual page and the Tacoma for comparison. Notice the only difference is the Land Cruiser manual states for optimum performance, use 91 octane. The Reseach Octane Number 96 is referring to how other countries outside of the United State measure...

From the Tacoma manual for the i-Force Max. It's interesting its says 87 or higher and (research 91 octane).

It’s all speculation until a technician or someone with actual knowledge of the differences in how the identical engines are setup between the various vehicles answers the question. I will run premium in mine but I will test out 87 octane to see the difference in MPG and see if I can tell a...

Would love for a Toyota engineer/technician to speak up on the differences between the vehicles in question with the identical engines and how they are set up differently between the vehicles. Clearly there are differences but they aren’t apparent other than performance related.

Other than more impressive performance numbers, someone who is certain about the premium fuel requirement explain in detail the difference between the Tacoma and 4 Runner turbo charged engines and the Land Cruiser with the identical engine and why it’s required to run premium in one and not the...

Time for someone to figure out how to install the Grenadier auxiliary switches on the roof of the LC.

I've run regular unleaded 87 in our Acura MDX with negligible difference in mileage or performance and it says the same thing as the LC with Premium fuel only. Waiting on our LC to arrive at dealer and plan to test it once I'm past the initial break in period. Modern engines can adjust the...

There is a bit more forgiveness with the bolt on design. One of our vehicles with a factory bolt on trailer hitch was rear ended and the hitch spread and needed replaced but the frame was fine.

Car Care Nut touched on this briefly. The hitch being integrated into the frame could pose problems if rear ended and the hitch is damaged. Does this mean the frame needs to be replaced if the hitch is damaged and you want to use it again? Seems like a short sighted design.

Confirmation your vehicle is on Indiana Highway arriving in Benicia (by San Francisco) on July 02.

I would keep your eye on Indiana Highway. It looks like it’s at port in Japan now. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s your ship. Once it leaves port after it has been at sea for a day or two, it will lose contact with AIS (radio contact) for its actual location. If you click on the route forecast...

Thanks! It’s scheduled to go through processing on June 27th so we’ll see if anything changes and it gets put into the QC hold. Fingers crossed… I’m really curious to see which ship your vehicle is on. I have noticed some of the ships will hit more than one port. Seven Seas Highway is the only...

Time for a couple of forum members who want to rack up a couple thousand Youtube views in a short while to schedule a get together and do a comparison. Bonus points and likes If you setup a deer decoy on the side of the road and film while you drive by it to compare performance of the different...

Talked to my dealer today and he said my FE (manufactured 5/15) that just arrived in Portland yesterday is still not part of the QC hold and the estimated delivery date by Toyota improved by about a week and a half. He said several of the Land Cruisers that were on hold at port have updated with...

No direct comparisons yet but the round to me are more an aesthetic decision. Squares should outperform the round since they have 3 beams

One of the best ways to make yourself feel confident about your vehicle getting you somewhere and back is to personally learn how it works and do maintenance items on it yourself. Vehicles didn’t use to come with engine covers and consumers became intimidated from working on vehicles when...

Thank you for the update. I have a FE in Trail Dust that was on this ship as well. Hopefully they move through port fairly quickly and are not caught up in the QC hold but I’m not that optimistic on the odds… These look like first editions since the lower trim piece below the lights is painted.

The GX550 has a V6 that currently is known to stop working in other vehicles carrying the same engine. Toyota has recalled a certain number of those vehicles but it's known that there are models produced in 2024 that have failed as well that have not been recalled yet. Only time will give the...

Same engine is coming to the GX550. The Land Cruiser name is definitely one of their flagship vehicles with a reputation they want to preserve. Only time will tell but this engine has been around for almost 5 years now. Hybrid powertrains designed like this one also take stress off the...