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Ive been to Pismo many times. Those dunes can be terrifying. Seen a lot of stock Toyotas stuck there. Theres some great classic off road trails near pismo. One goes to a water fall with a water crossing and one to top of hill over morro bay. Stock LC can do both. And no sand.

Interesting. Sounds like our skid plate isnt very sturdy. Sorry for your loss

https://support.toyota.com/s/questions-comments?language=en_US&_gl=1*12kjppa*_tmna_ga*MjA3MTc5Njg0My4xNzI0NDY1OTM3*_tmna_ga_EP43E5EFVZ*MTcyNDQ2NTkzNS4xLjEuMTcyNDQ2NjkwMS41NS4wLjA. I emailed toyota today. Asked about us getting 17mpg. Feel free to pile on if you are also in the 17mpg club

My two city driving trips today were 15 and 16mpg. Something definitely wrong with mine

Could be. But Im at sea level. I even did some all freeway trips and no change 17. Im leaning toward a programing issue with battery v engine. Dont know how to check. The dealer is useless

Yea ive picked up same mpg distribution from reading threads. Roughly 25% about 17 and rest about low 20’s. havnt seen a correlation to geographic region, driving habits, etc. people mostly got 20’s right off the bat or 17ish. Could be programing or could be some aspect not properly engaging.

Im in the 17mpg club on stock FE. No tricks have changed this and im almost at 2k miles. becoming convinced some of us have a problem with our cars.

Some of us have low mileage issue and its not how we drive. Ive tried ALL the tricks mentioned. Super conservative, etc. still getting 17mpg. Freeway, city, soft foot, doesnt matter. Never seen even 20 . I think us in the 17 club have a issue. Programing, something else? Dont know.

100%. I did my MGM tacoma and Meteor LC but not my other white car. And white car i also just run thru a brush car wash. The taco and LC get driven on dirt roads and parked outside too. And Im done waxing! Plus, i like cars to look good. My LC is for camping but also for work with clients...

All valid points. Its expensive, you shouldn't use brush car washes again, and needs periodic refresh. Why i did it. I foam canon wash and it is great time saver for that. I dont want to wax my car again. Park outside often and gives me more hardwater spots, bird and sun protection. My opinion...

I ceramic tinted all the windows except windshield. I live is very hot area. Big difference. This aquarium suv was so hot. Now with a windshield shade and ceramic tint huge improvement.

I own one and didnt catch that.

Found the pic of a MS with black roof wrap

I also bought eBay cargo cover. Doesn’t fit. Too wide.

Ceramic Pro. Sac. Its a vender so google if one near you

Brand new car. So very little prep work.

Id like to my MS with a satin black roof wrap. Hopefully someone else will pull the trigger and post a picture.

Expensive! But permanent. I recall a 5 or 7 year warranty. Made paint (mine is meteor) look better. Deeper color like after a wax. All plastic, rims and glass included. Washes are a joy now. Dont even need a sponge most the time. $1000

I got mine ceramic coated by Ceramic Pro. Its Like a permanent wax. They did rims and glass too. water beads off and dirt doesn't stick as easily. Makes washing after a trail ride so easy. I just foam it and power wash off. I dont think ceramic helps with scratches though.

I also got the cover king. Roll up version. Been 100"s all summer here. Well made. Way more heat resistance than the fabric disc style I used to have

Im thinking a black roof would look best on Meteor. Tie together the black accents. Not sure on type of black (flat, shine, etc).

Where did you start out before trying to improve mpg?

I ordered one earlier off Ebay. Said it was for 2024 Landcruiser. Had pics, etc. it was too wide to fit. 59 inches and springs in only a little. LC gap is 56”. So i just tried the 24’ GX 550 one from Amazon. Stay tuned

Im considering those as well. Anyone have a pic? (My tacoma has those bigger/standard rock sliders and it does stop all cars from their doors hitting it)

I cant wait to see your pics. I've been considering same thing.

I assume the gap is so back seats can still recline. Try reclining the seats to cover the gap.

I tried that a couple time. Manual calculated mileage was very close to the computer calculation. based on posts, really seems to be haves and have nots. most getting in 20's, then some getting 17. feels like a bug

I tried all the tricks on a work trip tonight. Coasted long to stops, light on pedal, eco mode. Still high 17’s mpg. I’d like to ask Toyota. See if a engine or computer issue for those of us in the teens. Anyone know if Toyota has a contact site? Or am I stuck asking my dealer

Ive tried manual calc and it was pretty darn close. Another posted charted peoples mileage posts. Seems there are haves and have nots. Most get somewhere is low 20’s. Then and dropoff and 20% getting 17. Led him to believe there is an issue with those.

tow mode was off. But i toggled it on and off now and Tac shows zero at rest or coasting to stop. But cant get it in battery only no matter how slow/easy i drive. Does the LC drive ever in battery only for you?