It hits the handle, not allowing it to be mostly against the window, like most other cars. Noticed it the first time I tried to use it.
Talking Cars w/ Consumer Reports: 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser
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I dont value these desk-holes at CR. They are generally retarded. Best videos are from techs or owners who have some time behind the wheel OR previous yota owners. Sorry not sorry
Thx Trek 805. Appreciate all you do for Ventura Co. 
Thank you !!!!!Thx Trek 805. Appreciate all you do for Ventura Co.
I would never take advice from these dorks...In all seriousness this is a Japanese vehicle and the Japanese mind has different thought process a Land cruiser transports people comfortably from point A to B via city town jungle desert and then to a black tie event....A bronco is to Offroad period
I really enjoyed their review and appreciate their work. I think the three of them do represent how average consumers will assess the LC and its comparable alternatives. The group facilitator and the lady seem like the average consumer who would be most pleased with a unibody vehicle for their main ride. Neither strike me as the type of consumer that would actually buy a body on frame for everyday driving. I don’t believe either would buy a weekend off-road toy as a second vehicle as they suggested.
Taking that into consideration I think they are missing what most of us here understand and appreciate. That Toyota has achieved something truly remarkable with the LC 250 though they do allude to that (not entirely) in their initial assessment. Being that it’s; smaller, more efficient, highly capable, and more affordable than before. All while living up to the reputation of the LC.
The reviewer seated in the middle seemed to be more representative of people who will buy one. We know what to expect from a body on frame vehicle for everyday driving. We also know what to expect from a Bronco, Jeep or Rover in longevity and reliability. I have no faith in a hybrid jeep, bronco or rover (any new rover for that matter). I do believe that this LC will be reliable, practical and actually retain its value in the long term.
Cost of materials, technology and therefore median vehicle price have all increased significantly in recent years. Yet a LCLC premium cost less than the previous base LC. This is what they missed in their review. Also it’s counterintuitive to their objection about its price. Like many have already posted here, the comparably equipped new Bronco is only marginally less expensive. I find the recommendation about buying the older Lexus or Bronco completely out of scope with the task of a new car review.
Other than that I still enjoyed listening to them. At least one reviewer gets it.
Taking that into consideration I think they are missing what most of us here understand and appreciate. That Toyota has achieved something truly remarkable with the LC 250 though they do allude to that (not entirely) in their initial assessment. Being that it’s; smaller, more efficient, highly capable, and more affordable than before. All while living up to the reputation of the LC.
The reviewer seated in the middle seemed to be more representative of people who will buy one. We know what to expect from a body on frame vehicle for everyday driving. We also know what to expect from a Bronco, Jeep or Rover in longevity and reliability. I have no faith in a hybrid jeep, bronco or rover (any new rover for that matter). I do believe that this LC will be reliable, practical and actually retain its value in the long term.
Cost of materials, technology and therefore median vehicle price have all increased significantly in recent years. Yet a LCLC premium cost less than the previous base LC. This is what they missed in their review. Also it’s counterintuitive to their objection about its price. Like many have already posted here, the comparably equipped new Bronco is only marginally less expensive. I find the recommendation about buying the older Lexus or Bronco completely out of scope with the task of a new car review.
Other than that I still enjoyed listening to them. At least one reviewer gets it.
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Thanks for putting out there what I think appeals to me about the LC. A comfortable way to travel through city or country. With more off-roading capability than I need in case the country side of it leads to some unmaintained roads. It’s just a great blend of everywhere travel. I have to be honest I’m probably not going to be driving this where you wouldn’t take a Subaru, after all I still have to get back home.
I can see people cross-shopping the LC with a new Bronco but I suppose it’s actually two different but overlapping markets.
The recommendation to buy a used previous generation GX is just lazy.
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Let’s delete this thread, along with the reviewers. 
While it rotates and extends the grab handle limits how far it can rotate and is several inches from the window.
I want to apologize for saying this. It was dumb and stupid for me to say. I don’t know what I was thinking when I wrote that.
I had a 2004 Explorer, obviously not a hybrid, and it ran strong until I got rid of it at 140K. Probably longer. It had suspension issues but that’s about it. We have a Bronco Sport (still not a hybrid) now that a daughter drives. It did cough up a water pump at 30K but otherwise not terrible. Ford doesn’t necessarily built bad cars.
The Toyota hybrid motors we are talking about here are standing on the shoulders of the early hybrids Toyota began putting on the road 20 years ago. They have sold more than 6 million Prius. Slightly different hybrid design, I guess, but the company has tons upon tons of engineering understanding of what does and doesn’t work in hybrid design and they have already made many of the mistakes the competition will be making now.
This is one of the key reasons I switched from a GX to a LC, aided by what the Car Care Nut said about each engine design.
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To be honest, I couldn’t finish watching the video. They were just too snobbish, or something..
But the Bronco is a FORD.
When FMC was in the red for two years, they got a new CFO, he bragged that he would fix the ‘books’ over night. HOW? He decided that Ford would start denying warranty repairs on its POS vehicles. DAMHIKT. Don’t get me started on my POS Transit van..
Never again.
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