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[Kevin]

Hello! While I've never owned a Land Cruiser, the incoming model is exactly the type of SUV that I'm looking for. I'm only interested in the base 1958 model.

I have a question for the group here: Ideally, I would like to replace my current aging SUV in 18-24 months. When would be the right time to get on an allocation list? I would prefer to wait until pricing details are released, but I don't know if that is right around the corner or months away. I have a high-volume Toyota dealer just a few miles away from me that is good about selling at MSRP.

Kevin

 

[Wanderlost]

Welcome Kevin!

My timeframe is similar to yours, however I'm not confident about my ability to get the trim/color/options I want from my local dealer. We can only guess at the right answer to your question. I would recommend watching here to see how the production allocation flows out to customers.

 

[Nuke]

Welcome aboard Kevin! Just be aware the 1958 trim level will be very spartan, and I suspect not all that quiet on the highway. However, if the primary intended use will be off-roading, then it would be ideal in my estimation.

 

[Kevin]

Just be aware the 1958 trim level will be very spartan, and I suspect not all that quiet on the highway.

To me, the 1958 trim seems to be pretty well equipped for a base model and has the features that I care about (heated seats and CarPlay). I would rather have a lower sticker price than features like leather seats. Also, I really like those round headlights. Highway noise might be a problem, but that is mostly a function of tires you are running which can always be swapped out.

 

[El Chorizo]

Hello @Kevin, welcome to the site!

 

[bluebullet]

To me, the 1958 trim seems to be pretty well equipped for a base model and has the features that I care about (heated seats and CarPlay). I would rather have a lower sticker price than features like leather seats. Also, I really like those round headlights. Highway noise might be a problem, but that is mostly a function of tires you are running which can always be swapped out.

Au contraire. I think road noise is the result of decontenting, e.g. reduced door/floor insulation in an effort to reduce costs/maintain profits. My 99 4Runner is quieter than my 2011 Trail (gone now) and my 2020 ORP. Stock tires on 4Runners are P rated to improve mileage and reduce costs and reduce road noise.

Welcome to the forum, Kevin.

 

[Nuke]

To me, the 1958 trim seems to be pretty well equipped for a base model and has the features that I care about (heated seats and CarPlay). I would rather have a lower sticker price than features like leather seats. Also, I really like those round headlights. Highway noise might be a problem, but that is mostly a function of tires you are running which can always be swapped out.

Agreed re leather seats, would rather not have them, i e. the upkeep, especially here in a dry climate.

 

[bluebullet]

Agreed re leather seats, would rather not have them, i e. the upkeep, especially here in a dry climate.

Unless you have a German Shepherd Dog that is constantly shedding. Then the Softex seats clean up nicely with a wet faux chamois. Even with a rear seat cover the fur abounds.

 

[Nuke]

Unless you have a German Shepherd Dog that is constantly shedding. Then the Softex seats clean up nicely with a wet faux chamois. Even with a rear seat cover the fur abounds.

100% in favor of Softex! The best of all worlds...

 

[Wanderlost]

It appears the Land Cruiser trim comes with softex seats and the premium package adds leather seats and a moonroof from all the Youtube videos I've watched.. I prefer softex over leather as well but those perferations will be full of dust after one summer on the roads I drive.

 

[Wanderlost]

Au contraire. I think road noise is the result of decontenting, e.g. reduced door/floor insulation in an effort to reduce costs/maintain profits. My 99 4Runner is quieter than my 2011 Trail (gone now) and my 2020 ORP. Stock tires on 4Runners are P rated to improve mileage and reduce costs and reduce road noise.

Welcome to the forum, Kevin.

Ahh, I hope Toyota doesn't go that far with the 1958 trim and reduce insulation for cost reduction. Differences at that level will add cost to manage multiple production configurations.

 

[supersix]

Welcome to the '24 Land Cruiser waiting party @Kevin I think you have plenty of time to get in line if your time frame of buying is 18-24 months, but it's hard to say right now.

I'm another fan of the Softex seats. We have them in our 10 year old 4runner and they still look great.

 

[LC-120]

softex rules ! Noise in a Landcruiser ? Don't worry. You may get some at high speed but this is because of the size.

 

[supersix]

softex rules ! Noise in a Landcruiser ? Don't worry. You may get some at high speed but this is because of the size.

Just test drive a Bronco or Wrangler before driving the Land Cruiser and I'm sure it will seem quiet.

 

[bluebullet]

Welcome to the '24 Land Cruiser waiting party @Kevin I think you have plenty of time to get in line if your time frame of buying is 18-24 months, but it's hard to say right now.

I'm another fan of the Softex seats. We have them in our 10 year old 4runner and they still look great.

I had Storm Cloth in my 2011 Trail-impossible to remove dog fur. Upgraded to Katzskins leather seats-very nice. Softex in my 2020 is a great improvement. No need for semi-annual leather treatments.

 

[Kevin]

Au contraire. I think road noise is the result of decontenting, e.g. reduced door/floor insulation in an effort to reduce costs/maintain profits. My 99 4Runner is quieter than my 2011 Trail (gone now) and my 2020 ORP. Stock tires on 4Runners are P rated to improve mileage and reduce costs and reduce road noise.

Fair enough, I see your point. I could tolerate some noise, but Bronco or Wrangler noise levels would be a deal breaker. I recently spent a few hours in a Wrangler yelling with the other passengers, it was comically loud on the highway. We might have to wait a few months for some reviews to answer that question on the 1958 model LC.

 

[bluebullet]

Ahh, I hope Toyota doesn't go that far with the 1958 trim and reduce insulation for cost reduction. Differences at that level will add cost to manage multiple production configurations.

I have seen posts on the 4Runner Forum where people had projects to sound proof doors/floors on 5th Gens at some expense. I think my 1999 SR5 had the extra insulation installed at the factory-not sure. I know I paid $30K for it in 99 with MSRP of $32K. I got my 2020 ORP for $42K in 2019. That's not much markup over 20 years so I assume decontenting is taking place.

I always figured the difference between Lexus and Toyota was the little extras Lexus added along with some customer coddling.

I also like to think Lexus and Toyota are not driven by bean counters and more by engineers with profit still an objective. As usual I may be wrong no matter how much I enjoy it.

 

[bluebullet]

Fair enough, I see your point. I could tolerate some noise, but Bronco or Wrangler noise levels would be a deal breaker. I recently spent a few hours in a Wrangler yelling with the other passengers, it was comically loud on the highway. We might have to wait a few months for some reviews to answer that question on the 1958 model LC.

I'm with you. Anything you can take apart is liable to be a bit noisy on the highway.

I am also curious to see if the windshield is a bug magnet. It looks as though it may be. I do like what appears to be higher (taller) windows all around vs the 5th Gen. 4Runner. That improves visibility.

 

[LC-120]

softex rules ! Noise in a Landcruiser ? Don't worry. You may get some at high speed but this is because of the size.

Sorry, I made a mistake I thought Softex is the standard on 1958.

Please have a look:

Toyota SofTex® vs. Leather: What’s the Difference?

Let’s answer the question, “What is SofTex?” Simply put, it's a synthetic leather material that’s designed to take a great deal of wear and tear.

blog.mccarthytoyotaofsedalia.com

On my 16 years old Landcruiser the standard fabric seats are in perfect shape. I would never consider my LC120 spartan and 1958 had so many more features.

 

[Skidaddl]

It appears the Land Cruiser trim comes with softex seats and the premium package adds leather seats and a moonroof from all the Youtube videos I've watched.. I prefer softex over leather as well but those perferations will be full of dust after one summer on the roads I drive.

This is exactly my concern.