Method 703 (17" +35, Gloss Titanium)+ Falken Wildpeak AT4W 255/80R17

[uraniumrich]

I'm working on putting some new off-road ready boots on my Heritage Blue LC that currently has the 20" wheels. I decided to go with the Method 703 (17 x 8.5, +35, Gloss Titanium) along with 255/80R17 (true 33") Falken WildPeak AT4W tires. While the rims arrived today, I'm still waiting on TPMS sensors (P/N 4260776020) from Toyota which are on backorder. This is my first time to put new wheels on a vehicle, so this has been a challenging process to learn and understand all of the details to find the right combination of wheels and tires for my LC. My plans changed numerous times along the way, but I'm excited to finally be moving forward with the new boots.

I checked the fit of the 703 front and rear and both rims have ample clearance for the calipers.

Here's why I made my choices:

• I'm keeping my 20" wheels to go along with the new set. I'll switch back and forth between the wheels depending on both the time of year and whether or not I'm taking my LC off-road.
• I wanted a wheel that would not substantially increase the poke of my current setup. For the 8.5" wheel I would've preferred a +40 offset to reduce the poke a little bit, but the difference between +35 and +40 is less than 1/4". The new wheel will poke out 1.48" more than the current setup (20" wheel, 7.5" width, +60 offset).
• I wanted a wheel in the dark gray/titanium color family to match up to the Heritage Blue. The pictures on the Method website don't give any idea of the true color of the gloss titanium - it's a dark, metallic gray - perfect for Heritage Blue.
• I preferred a 17" wheel over 18" because everything I see and read says that more sidewall is better for off-roading.
• I wanted an all-terrain tire that was off-road focused, but also 3 Peak rated and great on road in the wet and on snow. The quieter the better. I initially thought I'd go with the KO3, but landed on the WildPeak AT4W as a better choice for me.
• 255/80R17 E (33", 58.1 lbs) Tire size was tough choice. I kept thinking about getting the larger tires to increase my clearance, but ultimately decided that I would be better served by the pizza cutters. The 285/70R17 C is also 33" but weighs 65.4 lbs. The 285/75R17 C is 34.1" and weighs 67.9 lbs. So, to gain clearance I would be sacrificing a lot of unsprung weight. The 285/75R17 is also around $80 more per tire. In the end I decided that I'd take the $ I saved and use it towards improving the suspension a little bit.
• Sidenote - I weighed my current wheel/tire combination and the scale read 75 lbs. I expect the combined weight of the 703 plus the 255/80R17 to be 85 lbs (a 10 lbs gain!). If I'd gone with the 285/75R17, then the combined weight would've been an astonishing 10 lbs/tire more than the 255/80R17 and 20 lbs/tire more than the stock tires. That's a big penalty to pay to gain 0.5" clearance.
• My off-roading will be adventurous, but not crazy. We're looking to take the LC places where having high clearance, hi/low four wheel drive, and lockers might be needed. I imagine we'll start with easier trails and gradually work up to harder ones as we get more experience.
• I'm waiting on the TPMS sensors. I'll post pictures of the new wheels on the LC once I get them.

703 in Gloss Titanium

Front View with OEM 20" wheels.

Front View showing 703 installed with no tire. More poke, but still under the fender.

703 installed on the front showing brake caliper clearance. No worries here.

703 installed on rear with ample clearance (but, less clearance than I expected!)

 

[D-Train]

Nice. I like the 703's. I'm looking to do the same here this winter. I think our use case is about the same, I just hate taking the rotating weight hit over my stock 18's. I don't think I'm going with a 2 wheel set-up, just one for DD and off-road. Be sure to post pics when it's all set-up!

 

[uraniumrich]

Nice. I like the 703's. I'm looking to do the same here this winter. I think our use case is about the same, I just hate taking the rotating weight hit over my stock 18's. I don't think I'm going with a 2 wheel set-up, just one for DD and off-road. Be sure to post pics when it's all set-up!

I also liked the Method 708 HD (18", +40), but it's 36 lbs and 18". That's a weight penalty of 10 lbs/wheel compared to the 703. The regular 708 is just 1.5 lbs more, but the offset is either 0 or +12, which aren't a good fit for what I want.

 

[jleff]

Would love to see what these look like once you post them. Love the titanium 703s. Looking at the same for mine.

 

[joe1515]

Why couldn't you use the TPMS sensors that came with the 20" LC tire/rim setup?

 

[uraniumrich]

Why couldn't you use the TPMS sensors that came with the 20" LC tire/rim setup?

I’m keeping the 20” wheels and I’ll switch back and forth between the two sets depending on whether I’m going off-road and/or the time of year. I like both sets of wheels. Of course, I’ll like the 20” wheels better with a different set of tires on them. C’mon Toyota, are you kidding me?

 

[joe1515]

I’m keeping the 20” wheels and I’ll switch back and forth between the two sets depending on whether I’m going off-road and/or the time of year. I like both sets of wheels. Of course, I’ll like the 20” wheels better with a different set of tires on them. C’mon Toyota, are you kidding me?

That makes sense, thanks!

 

[uraniumrich]

New boots arrived today. The 255/80R17 Falken AT4W tires gave me about 3/4" more clearance than the old 265/60R20 tires. Here are some pics:

 

[uraniumrich]

Would love to see what these look like once you post them. Love the titanium 703s. Looking at the same for mine.

Pics are posted. I'll get some more outside when I get a chance.

 

[Beach Cruiser]

That looks great! I like the grey with blue. Any hit to MPG?

 

[uraniumrich]

That looks great! I like the grey with blue. Any hit to MPG?

No data yet. Wheels are brand new. Currently trying to decipher what pressure to run in my tires. My best estimate is 39 psi. Here's how I figured it out:

1. Current Load Index is 112. According to Falken, an Index of 112 at 33 psi is a load of 2469 lbs. Evidently metric tires include a 10% overage when used on an SUV. So, the equivalent load I need for my tires is 2469/1.1 = 2104 lbs.

2. Based on Falken's table, for the LT255/80R17 the load at 35 psi is 1945 lbs and the load at 40 psi is 2135 lbs. Interpolating between the two, I get a value of 2097 lbs at 39 psi. That's pretty doggone close to the 2104 lbs on the 265/60R20 tires that came with the truck.

So, 39 psi will be my starting point.

 

[OzLC]

So, 39 psi will be my starting point.

Very nice writeup. You obviously put a lot of research and thought into this. I like your decision too. I think I'll go that way as well, though maybe matt black wheels. Have you gotten an impression of how loud the tires are? Also, have you tried chalking to set tire psi?

 

[uraniumrich]

Very nice writeup. You obviously put a lot of research and thought into this. I like your decision too. I think I'll go that way as well, though maybe matt black wheels. Have you gotten an impression of how loud the tires are? Also, have you tried chalking to set tire psi?

I plan to chalk the tires soon. Other than driving the car a few miles to get the TPMS to sync, I haven't driven enough to get an idea of tire noise.

 

[Valsmere]

Damn they look GREAT!

 

[Altitude]

Looks fantastic. I agree that titanium color works well with the Heritage Blue.

 

[D-Train]

Love them. Thinking the same set-up in bronze for my Underground. Any more debate about running 17's on the LC? Brake clearance issues?

 

[thognar]

Love them. Thinking the same set-up in bronze for my Underground. Any more debate about running 17's on the LC? Brake clearance issues?

I also installed Method 703 (17 x 8.5, +35) on my LC. Looks like plenty of clearance with brakes; didn't measure but looks like fingers would fit in the space if that provides some idea of clearance.

My tire choice was 285/75R17 Toyo Open County. No rubbing with stock suspension. May add a lift at some point but doesn't look necessary. Need to come up with a good solution for the full-sized spare. It fits in the stock location but is too low for off-road use. I purchased a nice hitch-mount rack but really hate loosing all the parking sensors and rear camera. The new bumpers from Dissent look like they would be a solid solution but are perhaps more 'serious' than makes sense for me.

 

[trek805]

Looks awesome!! Methods are great looking wheels

 

[uraniumrich]

Checked the weight of the 703 with the 255/80R17 Falken and found that it weighed exactly 10 lbs more per wheel (84.8 lbs vs. 74.8 lbs on my scale.)

 

[panther]

I'm working on putting some new off-road ready boots on my Heritage Blue LC that currently has the 20" wheels. I decided to go with the Method 703 (17 x 8.5, +35, Gloss Titanium) along with 255/80R17 (true 33") Falken WildPeak AT4W tires. While the rims arrived today, I'm still waiting on TPMS sensors (P/N 4260776020) from Toyota which are on backorder. This is my first time to put new wheels on a vehicle, so this has been a challenging process to learn and understand all of the details to find the right combination of wheels and tires for my LC. My plans changed numerous times along the way, but I'm excited to finally be moving forward with the new boots.

I checked the fit of the 703 front and rear and both rims have ample clearance for the calipers.

Here's why I made my choices:

• I'm keeping my 20" wheels to go along with the new set. I'll switch back and forth between the wheels depending on both the time of year and whether or not I'm taking my LC off-road.
• I wanted a wheel that would not substantially increase the poke of my current setup. For the 8.5" wheel I would've preferred a +40 offset to reduce the poke a little bit, but the difference between +35 and +40 is less than 1/4". The new wheel will poke out 1.48" more than the current setup (20" wheel, 7.5" width, +60 offset).
• I wanted a wheel in the dark gray/titanium color family to match up to the Heritage Blue. The pictures on the Method website don't give any idea of the true color of the gloss titanium - it's a dark, metallic gray - perfect for Heritage Blue.
• I preferred a 17" wheel over 18" because everything I see and read says that more sidewall is better for off-roading.
• I wanted an all-terrain tire that was off-road focused, but also 3 Peak rated and great on road in the wet and on snow. The quieter the better. I initially thought I'd go with the KO3, but landed on the WildPeak AT4W as a better choice for me.
• 255/80R17 E (33", 58.1 lbs) Tire size was tough choice. I kept thinking about getting the larger tires to increase my clearance, but ultimately decided that I would be better served by the pizza cutters. The 285/70R17 C is also 33" but weighs 65.4 lbs. The 285/75R17 C is 34.1" and weighs 67.9 lbs. So, to gain clearance I would be sacrificing a lot of unsprung weight. The 285/75R17 is also around $80 more per tire. In the end I decided that I'd take the $ I saved and use it towards improving the suspension a little bit.
• Sidenote - I weighed my current wheel/tire combination and the scale read 75 lbs. I expect the combined weight of the 703 plus the 255/80R17 to be 85 lbs (a 10 lbs gain!). If I'd gone with the 285/75R17, then the combined weight would've been an astonishing 10 lbs/tire more than the 255/80R17 and 20 lbs/tire more than the stock tires. That's a big penalty to pay to gain 0.5" clearance.
• My off-roading will be adventurous, but not crazy. We're looking to take the LC places where having high clearance, hi/low four wheel drive, and lockers might be needed. I imagine we'll start with easier trails and gradually work up to harder ones as we get more experience.
• I'm waiting on the TPMS sensors. I'll post pictures of the new wheels on the LC once I get them.

703 in Gloss Titanium
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Front View with OEM 20" wheels.
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Front View showing 703 installed with no tire. More poke, but still under the fender.
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703 installed on the front showing brake caliper clearance. No worries here.
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703 installed on rear with ample clearance (but, less clearance than I expected!)
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not Heritage blue obviously but similar wheels I think mine are the 708 275 Toyo tires. Just got them installed yesterday love the poke and overall look