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Now that I have a Land Cruiser, I should update my list of recommended (or not) MSRP dealers in the SF Bay Area.SFBay area dealers I've talked to:
- Toyota Walnut Creek: MSRP, waiting list requires a deposit, and it's long enough they don't expect to get through the list this year.
- One Toyota Oakland: MSRP, also has a waiting list and requires a deposit.
Dealers that are marking up:
Edit: I followed up with Milpitas Toyota and could not get a straight answer on pricing, which probably means over MSRP either with a markup or with mandatory dealer add ons.
- The infamous Dublin Toyota: $10k markup.
- Putnam Toyota: $10k markup for now, expect to drop to MSRP as some point.
- Autonation Toyota Hayward: $9k markup. (Said MSRP until they got an allocation, then demanded a markup.)
- Fremont Toyota: not selling at MSRP, I'm not sure exactly what the markup is, I haven't gotten a straight answer.
- Milpitas Toyota: TBD -- no markups listed on the web page, but they are kind of infamous for markups. A couple years ago between market adjustment, required add ons, and optional (but not really optional) add ons they had $25k markups on RAV4's. Maybe they've changed tactics?
I wondered the same thing about whether the "original sale" was real, but I did ask about it again when it was supposed to be getting close to arriving and the sales guy said it was no longer available. So probably it was real in this case?Here in Texas you can pretty much walk in and walk out with a msrp deal.
when I went there They said $10k for markup and another $6.5k for stuff port and dealer installed like window tint, ppf, roof rack, predator steps, some storage stuff in the trunk, a ball mount etc .
They told me the car was for someone that was supposed to be here today and fell thru. I call BS on that. They can wait 30 minutes on the supposed depositor to show up. The whole deposit thing sounded like a cop out to get me to buy.
I was like I'm not paying for any of that s. Gave the sales guy my biz card and walked away. He called me before I drove off the lot.
That was the last time I drove my 5th gen 4Runner. With a fare trade in value.
They axed the markup and I'm like I'm not paying for the port installed extras. Take off the roof rack and the stuff in the trunk. Eventually they're like you can have it all and then dropped me $1000 below msrp.
Another dealership a few miles further north is known for no markups. But part of the fun is the hard nosed negotiation. It's kind of satisfying. I find it easier to negotiate with the greedy dealers. What comes up must go down harder, gravity assisted.
If you search hard enough you'll get a deal on these LCs and the GX550s are starting to get there too. Now with that extra lift on the 2025 overtrail they're gonna extend that markup crap on the GX for a little longer. I'm gonna mod this LC and enjoy the hell out of it for a couple of three years and go from there.
It's a brilliant piece of machinery.