Land Cruisers are easily stolen.
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Newest Toyotas have encrypted CAN buses so this video doesn’t apply to the LC. Comma AI has been trying to crack the security key without any luck. They need it to control the car for their ADAS (FSD like) system.
My guess is fob cloning via OBD2 port.
Who is Comma Al? And what is the ADAS (FDS) system?
So, you are saying that we are ‘safe’ from these people?
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RAV4s (non Primes) can be stolen easily with the CANbus injection hack. Newer Toyotas use encrypted signals so you can’t just hack into the headlights and send an “open doors” signal. Comma AI need to send steering values I believe to the car for their self driving system.
found this Key Signal Theft Deterrent. all of you can use to turn off your keyfob.
What is the reason for removing the speaker from an AirTag before hiding it in a vehicle? If the vehicle is stolen, does the owner using Find My automatically turn on the sound tone?
To defeat stalkers, Apple included an alert to ping iPhones when AirTags were 'tracking' them. The victim (or thieves in this case) can find the AirTag as it will 'ping' while the alert is active. Disabling the speaker makes this much harder. I use a watertight black case to hold/hide it that looks anything like an AirTag and put it in an inaccessible spot. Can they find it.. maybe, but it would take a looooong time to do it. Can they turn off their bluetooth, yes. Can they drive it in a metal building far away from other phones/wi-fi, yes.
Better: I had an old iphone hidden in our van with a $5/month sim card in it. Hardwired the charge cable to the 12v hot. Use 'Find My iPhone' and turned off all notifications/noises on the phone. Worked great, luckily never had to use it. I did use it once when we got lost on a hike and had to find our way back, and it worked great. Lot's of the YouTubes out there that show how this works.
No measure is 100%, LoJacks are defeatable. AirTags are a pretty effective and cheap solution to track a car that doesn't rely on the Toyota software and doesn't have a monthly fee.
The Best: EOD Guy comes up with a DIY for a hidden fuel pump kill switch. That, or a dummy OBD port DIY. Pretty please!
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Hahahahahaha… I’m anxious to see. We found everything in it dumped on the side of the road around the corner. Well, everything except the cool box tray.
That is probably what the stole the car for.
Luckily, the shallow tray is almost ready to ship!
What makes it easily stolen over any other vehicle?
This.The airtag will eventually alert a non-owner iphone of its presence and make a noise. But thats not for many hours. Realistically when the airtag works for recovery it is not days later.
Also Android has a find airtag app.
For short term use a gps tracker on the roof in a magnetic box might be a solution. My concern is exactly OP situation being parked at a hotel. In fact the only two LC thefts I've seen reported were from hotels. So I'm willing to manage a battery in a GPS for short term use. There are monthly subscriptions now.
The GPS trackers that plug into the ODB port are obviously not anti-theft. But there are rechargeable devices.
GPS tracking and airtag tracking are great backup systems but require confrontation with the thieves. Keeping them from starting the truck would be Plan A. So, anything that keeps them from interacting with the OBD.
Our LC is my wife’s daily driver, and I drive it very little.
Would you care to elaborate on the last sentence of your post?
Plan A is to motivate the thief to choose another vehicle.
Most people plan with trackers is for the police to confront the thief.
Simple ignition kill switches are inexpensive to have installed, but locations are limited. Battery kill switches disable the alarm as well as app features.
I’m really glad you’re getting your LC back. I was reading your thread about the door sills after reading this thread. Couldn’t help but think,”dang, it was just here getting new mods and now it’s gone.” So happy for you you’re getting it back. At least it got everyone here talking and learning about how to protect our LCs.
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Dummy OBDii ports are selling on ebay.
Hidden fuel pump kill switch is easily done via the relay trigger wire.
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And, if towed, the added benefit of arousing little suspicion from bystanders. Hence, nobody would think to snap a photo...
Now that I think more about it, a fuel pump kill switch may be a bad idea? With the new direct injectors/fuel delivery system, having the fuel pump off while cranking may damage something? Would the LC even try to start if power was cut to the fuel pump? Maybe not.
Thoughts from the collective?
Someone stealing by ODB hack is much more knowledge of fake ODB ports and ODB locks than we do. So unless you plan to locate the real ODB port in an inaccessible place I think the thief can easily follow the wires and connect.
The question is how long the average car thief is willing to troubleshoot while in the vehicle. If there is no alarm and he can lay on the floor, perhaps for more than a few minutes.
An ODB disabler like IGLA may be the sure way of preventing the car from being driven. But for me the cost plus the potential of being stranded in a remote area made me decide to not install that system.
I'm curious if the alarm sounds if a person crawls through an open window with the vehicle locked. I suspect not, due to the circumstances of the theft in this thread.
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