What about A-trac? I haven't seen or heard anyone talk about it...KDSS option is gone. E-KDSS is available on some Lexus 550GX trims.
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What about A-trac? I haven't seen or heard anyone talk about it...KDSS option is gone. E-KDSS is available on some Lexus 550GX trims.
Or how tall you are.I like this idea @Skidaddl!
Good to flush out similarities and differences to help make informed purchasing decisions.
Here are a couple more differences for folks that plan to wheel their trucks.
TH version the 4R has the 9.5 rear diff (like the GX550) vs the 8.2 on LC. Not sure on rest of 4R lineup but imagine the TRD Pro would have it as well.
Approach/Departure better on 4R TH 32/24 vs LC 30 or 31/22. Haven’t seen rest of lineup numbers.
Ground Clearance 4R 9.2 vs LC 8.7.
LC is also about 5” taller - something to consider based on where you wheel or if you have a garage.
I'd be willing to bet the average age on here to be well over 40.I think we have a similar taste and age as well. Guess we are part of that “safe and confident” crowd according to the Toyota marketing folk….Whatever that means. I hope to be having some “fun” with this LC though too.
Nuke and I would kick it up a bit. I got a year on OJ.I'd be willing to bet the average age on here to be well over 40.
At 49 here I’d like to still think young & fun. The 4R seems to differentiate itself with a greater variety of trims / configurations than the LC, particularly at the lower end. You could forego the hybrid entirely & come in at a lower price point than the 1958. I suspect at my end of the market (say 4R Platinum vs. LC Premium) that I’d find a much smaller price gap. With shared Taco components, the 4R may still be slightly cheaper but I suspect not cheaper enough to factor into my decision. Particularly also comparing the GX.
Power to Toyota for offering 3 similar vehicles when competitors offer zero (where’s my Ford Everest?). I suspect for some this will be a very difficult decision. I can’t say I know which way to go. I hope that would be cleared up once I have a chance to actually sit in both.
I'll be 70 in October.I'd be willing to bet the average age on here to be well over 40.
If I was to guess, I'd say their target market is the over 50's. Either on purpose, or by accident. Fun fact: the PT Cruiser was originally targeted towards the 20-something crowd, but it was the over 50's that were buying them!m
I'll be 70 in October.
I don't think we know, but I was wondering if it was because the 4Runner has a smaller rear diff.The additional 5-inches of headroom in the Land Cruiser will be appreciated by passengers. Especially, those well over 6-foot.
Do we know if the increased ground clearance on the 4Runner is in the suspension or does it just have larger tires?
Yep, that’s exactly it. The Jeep & Bronco are awesome vehicles! I’d have one as a second vehicle if I could. But when you’re budgeting this kind of money for a car, and they’re priced similarly, I’m looking for something I can enjoy for all types of driving, not just short trips. Sadly Chevy has yet to answer this segment with anything & that Colorado is a nice truck to base something off of.52 here. Pretty sure we're the target demographic LOL
But man, that second paragraph is something isn't it. Nobody else offers what Toyota is laying down. I don't count the Jeep and Bronco. Those are rattletraps that lose their appeal after the first two hours on the highway for all but the biggest die hards.
If Chevy made that ZR2 Colorado into an SUV, I'd be looking at that pretty hard too.
And crappier tires..Hard to tell from these pic's, but looks like the LC may have larger frame components.View attachment 1396View attachment 1397
Interesting. I’m certainly seeing what you’re seeing. I might’ve thought for cost & production reasons they’d have the same frame. Maybe not.Hard to tell from these pic's, but looks like the LC may have larger frame components.View attachment 1396View attachment 1397
Chevy did answer though.Yep, that’s exactly it. The Jeep & Bronco are awesome vehicles! I’d have one as a second vehicle if I could. But when you’re budgeting this kind of money for a car, and they’re priced similarly, I’m looking for something I can enjoy for all types of driving, not just short trips. Sadly Chevy has yet to answer this segment with anything & that Colorado is a nice truck to base something off of.
4Runner SR5 (turbo) | $43,000 (estimated) |
4Runner TRD Sport (turbo) | $46,000 (estimated) |
4Runner TRD Sport Premium (turbo) | $47,000 (estimated) |
4Runner TRD Off-Road (turbo or hybrid) | $47,000 (estimated) |
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium (turbo or hybrid) | $50,000 (estimated) |
4Runner Limited (turbo or hybrid) | $53,000 (estimated) |
4Runner Platinum (hybrid) | $57,000 (estimated) |
4Runner TRD Pro (hybrid) | $60,000 (estimated) |
4Runner Trailhunter (hybrid) | $62,000 (estimated) |
Think your numbers might be off a bit -