Land Cruiser Maintenance Guide

[Marinna]

https://www.toyota.com/content/dam/toyota/brochures/pdf/2024/T-MMS-24LandCruiser.pdf

I am reading this document and very surprised to find out that the Toyota recommendation for oil change is 10000 miles. Are they really that confident to their Turbo engine, or they just encourage everybody to wear off the engine pre-maturely? I was thinking changing oil half of recommended schedule (5000 miles for normal condition and 2500 for rugged driving environment)

What do you think is the other maintenance items that you would perform beyond manufacturer' recommendation?

 

[chris_in_phx]

Yes they set the first oil change at 10k miles.

you are expected to bring it in for free “maintenance “ at 5k but that doesnt include oil change.

 

[Marinna]

Yes they set the first oil change at 10k miles.

you are expected to bring it in for free “maintenance “ at 5k but that doesnt include oil change.

I plan to go to the shop I know and ask them to change the oil in between the interval.

My main point is that engine. 10000 miles is a bit too long even for non-Turbo ones. I don't think Toyota make their recommendation because they want to save money on their free warranty

 

[fatfish]

I plan on my first oil change a 1k then every 3k to 4k after that. I don't belive 10k on a 4cyl turbo would be good for longevity.

 

[chris_in_phx]

Personally I dont believe toyota is trying to save money that way. there a number of manufacturers who are building engines that they spec for longer than 3-5k oil changes. Obviously we can all do what we want - I’m personally not gonna worry about it and just change when the car tells me it needs it and go for synthetic. I think toyota would have a much bigger problem on their hands if they were saying go 10k but engines really needed 5k oil changes for example. And of course it also depends on environment and driving conditions/style etc. to each their own but i dont think theyre nickel and diming millions of customers who intend to drive their cars 100k 150k 200k miles like me

 

[Marinna]

Personally I dont believe toyota is trying to save money that way. there a number of manufacturers who are building engines that they spec for longer than 3-5k oil changes. Obviously we can all do what we want - I’m personally not gonna worry about it and just change when the car tells me it needs it and go for synthetic. I think toyota would have a much bigger problem on their hands if they were saying go 10k but engines really needed 5k oil changes for example. And of course it also depends on environment and driving conditions/style etc. to each their own but i dont think theyre nickel and diming millions of customers who intend to drive their cars 100k 150k 200k miles like me

For this I would listen to The Car Care nut guy. A good mechanic’s word is more trustworthy than manufacturer. But it is just my opinion.

 

[TakaraLC]

Personally I dont believe toyota is trying to save money that way. there a number of manufacturers who are building engines that they spec for longer than 3-5k oil changes. Obviously we can all do what we want - I’m personally not gonna worry about it and just change when the car tells me it needs it and go for synthetic. I think toyota would have a much bigger problem on their hands if they were saying go 10k but engines really needed 5k oil changes for example. And of course it also depends on environment and driving conditions/style etc. to each their own but i dont think theyre nickel and diming millions of customers who intend to drive their cars 100k 150k 200k miles like me

Yeah I don't get the "they are trying to save money" argument. What is the cost of an oil change for Toyota, $50? They can add $200 to the price of the vehicle to cover 4 more extra oil changes and nobody would care.

 

[Marinna]

I just found this nice video from the Car Care Nut. Somehow I couldn't find AHC on the 60K service schedule