J250 vs J300 build differences (metal thickness, diffs sizes, knuckles, control arms, etc)
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As long as things are strong enough that is actually an advantage. As an offshore racing sailor, I've learned that weight is the enemy of performance and there is no point in making things stronger/heavier than they need to be, especially as this often has knock on deleterious effects on other parts of the platform. It is pretty easy to get in a vicious instead of virtuous spiral when making "upgrades". People immediately make the assumption that Toyota made its engineering choices to save cost, but while that is always a consideration, I'm sure the engineers were more concerned with performance and reliability while designing the platform.
The 300 Series is a Station Wagon Land Cruiser, while the 250 is a Light-Duty Land Cruiser two tools designed for different jobs. Comparing them is fundamentally flawed. The 300 should be compared to other Station Wagons, like the 200, not a light-duty Land Cruiser.At the end of the day, one’s a light-duty Land Cruiser, and the other is a Station Wagon. Seeing smaller or lighter components on the 250 shouldn’t be surprising it’s purpose-built for lighter use. it’s just engineered differently for its role as a Light Duty Land Cruiser.
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Most platforms these days are getting smaller and lighter. Its a sign of the times. Unless you look at the Ineos Grenadier. That's a cool overbuilt British cruiser with solid axles, multilink suspension and an inline 6 turbo BMW motor that weights close to 7k lbs. I watched a comparison vid tonight, Ben Hardy reviews, on this versus a FE LC. Interesting.
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Oh yeah, 100% agree with this. LC300 parts would likely be dwarfed by some heavy duty truck's (F250/F350/etc) parts and heavy duty's parts would be baby-sized compared by a proper semi-truck parts which will look like tiny lego block next to haul truck's parts. Nevertheless it is still interesting (at least to me as an engineer) to see the actual differences and trade offs engineers have made to design some particular product.
If it was built like the LC300, people would just turn around and complain that it is too expensive, too heavy, and did not get good enough gas mileage.
The Ineos is certainly an interesting vehicle, but according to the owners in the forums, it seems to have some serious quality issues. Not so much with the BMW engine, but with the body.
Interesting press release, including transcript from model launch presentation, that speaks volumes about what the Land Cruiser 250 is meant to be in the Land Cruiser product line.
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Toyota's New Land Cruiser "250" Makes World Premiere | Toyota | Global Newsroom | Toyota Motor Corporation Official Global Website
Toyota Motor Corporation (Toyota) has unveiled the new Land Cruiser "250" Series to the world, with the launch planned for the first half of 2024 in Japan. Also announced today is the heavy-duty Land Cruiser "70", which will make its return to Japan this coming winter as a regular model in the...
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