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OviMetal

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Hey gang! Currently shopping for my next vehicle and the LC is at the top of my list. Currently have a 22 4Runner Limited that I made look like a pro. Before that I have had Tacoma’s, Tundra’s and several other makes and models. The resale value of the 4Runner is holding steady and should rise when the new one hits the market just as the previous model Tacoma and Tundra did. Not crazy about the new 4Runner even though it comes with a slightly larger gas tank and rear heated seats…an option I am surprised is not on the LC! I drove a 1958 Model over the weekend and hoping to drive a GX550 soon. I love the looks of the LC but I wasn’t crazy about the feel of the powertrain. Loved the power but it wasn’t delivered smoothly. I am no stranger to Toyota Hybrids but this power train felt unrefined. Am I missing something on the refinement?
 
Welcome to the forum! I would strongly suggest you also drive a LC with the Premium Pkg. The GX will be smooth, with the V6 and 10-Speed, but it is not the legendary Land Cruiser, and its future value will probably reflect this. Personally, in your situation I might be tempted to keep the 4Runner, unless it has terribly high miles.
 
Welcome to the forum! I would strongly suggest you also drive a LC with the Premium Pkg. The GX will be smooth, with the V6 and 10-Speed, but it is not the legendary Land Cruiser, and its future value will probably reflect this. Personally, in your situation I might be tempted to keep the 4Runner, unless it has terribly high miles.
If I buy an LC, it will definitely have the Premium package.
 
Hey gang! Currently shopping for my next vehicle and the LC is at the top of my list. Currently have a 22 4Runner Limited that I made look like a pro. Before that I have had Tacoma’s, Tundra’s and several other makes and models. The resale value of the 4Runner is holding steady and should rise when the new one hits the market just as the previous model Tacoma and Tundra did. Not crazy about the new 4Runner even though it comes with a slightly larger gas tank and rear heated seats…an option I am surprised is not on the LC! I drove a 1958 Model over the weekend and hoping to drive a GX550 soon. I love the looks of the LC but I wasn’t crazy about the feel of the powertrain. Loved the power but it wasn’t delivered smoothly. I am no stranger to Toyota Hybrids but this power train felt unrefined. Am I missing something on the refinement?
I agree with you on the drive train. It reminds me of our 2014 VW hybrid. I’m ok with it, but compared to every other Toyota hybrid I’ve driven (especially the Prius) it’s surprising. My guess is this is their first truck hybrid focused on delivering torque? I find myself frustrated that there’s no traditional hybrid graphic that tells you what’s going on with the system as you drive.
 
The 3 operating modes (Sport/Normal/Eco) will affect the responsiveness of the transmission, it's possible that one mode may suit your preferences more than the others. Otherwise the GX550 with the V6 and 10 speed transmission should feel more 'refined'.
 
The GX550 is a very compelling option. Probably would have been our choice if the Overtrail was obtainable and the nearest dealer wasn’t 5 hours away.
 
I guess I am one of the contrarians. I looked at the GX and actually prefer the LC power train. Its near instantaneous power delivery under 50 MPH makes it a hoot to drive around town and arguably better for most off road situations.

Compared to the Overtrail+, the premium package also has a better cockpit and screen layout, leather seats, tri-zone HVAC with rear seat roof vents, and the 2400 watt inverter in the back. All for about 15K less.
 
I agree with you on the drive train. It reminds me of our 2014 VW hybrid. I’m ok with it, but compared to every other Toyota hybrid I’ve driven (especially the Prius) it’s surprising. My guess is this is their first truck hybrid focused on delivering torque? I find myself frustrated that there’s no traditional hybrid graphic that tells you what’s going on with the system as you drive.
You're probably already aware of it (and I'm aware it's not the exact same thing you're describing), but there is a screen in the information section that has gauges for both the "iForce" turbo and "MAX" hybrid drive, so at least you do get a visual representation of which systems are aiding the powertrain at any particular moment....
 
You're probably already aware of it (and I'm aware it's not the exact same thing you're describing), but there is a screen in the information section that has gauges for both the "iForce" turbo and "MAX" hybrid drive, so at least you do get a visual representation of which systems are aiding the powertrain at any particular moment....
Yes, I haven’t found it very helpful. In particular I have no idea when regenerative braking is happening. In every other hybrid I’ve driven there’s a system display making everything clear in one simple diagram. Maybe they skipped that because they don’t want you thinking of this as a hybrid? For my part I’d find it very informative.
 
I came from a Honda V6 (the epitome of smooth running) and it definately took some getting used to the gruff power train of the LC. I've never found it vibrating uncomfortably or anything like that, it's just a bit noisy on acceleration. But after two months and 4000 miles, it doesn't phase me anymore. Never drove the gx, but being a v6, it'll naturally be smoother.
 
I came from a Honda V6 (the epitome of smooth running) and it definately took some getting used to the gruff power train of the LC. I've never found it vibrating uncomfortably or anything like that, it's just a bit noisy on acceleration. But after two months and 4000 miles, it doesn't phase me anymore. Never drove the gx, but being a v6, it'll naturally be smoother.
I was very similar. Coming from daily driving a smooth running '22 4Runner Limited V6 (albeit grossly and ridiculously underpowered and noisy), I had to get used to the LC's "rough" engine.

I will say after it hit 1,000 miles and after the first oil change, it seems significantly smoother and more refined. It is extremely quick around town and the highway and the torque is unbelievable. Perhaps I am getting used to it and enjoying its rawness more and more. It is truly an enjoyable large SUV to drive.

I have been a Porsche 911 owner for years. While the Boxer Flat 6 in the 911's is a great engine, it is far from smooth. It is very rough on cold start and takes a long time to warm. Even when warm, it's rough and noisy. However, that is the charm of a 911.

I like the V6 in the GX550. However, I'm not a fan of the Lexus brand and prefer the looks of the Land Cruiser Premium both outside and inside.
Additionally, as mentioned, the Land Cruiser is the quintessential in SUV's and it's hard not to chose this name plate and long history.
 
Once you decide what's most important,,,,
The LC is a more iconic vehicle.
The Lexus is classier and fancier.
Both will hold resale longer and better than most out there, both abt the same.
Lexus has more snob appeal.
Land Cruiser has more name brand focus crowd appeal.
Lexus socker mom rating is higher than LC.

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