How Toyota Got the 2024 Land Cruiser So Wrong — Full Review & History — Jason Cammisa on the ICONS

[yoadriantrd]

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This is the definitive on- and off-road review of the J250-series Toyota Land Cruiser, putting its challenges into perspective by explaining how it fits into the 70-year Land Cruiser lineage, together with the 2024 Lexus GX550.

Not sure what he was talking about it being slow in traffic. Even w 35s and steel skids I have zero issues whipping through traffic or flying up a mountain. surprised to see the little difference in HP between a GX and LC for an additional 25k more I think Ill keep my 1958 lol.

 

[DoMoCruiser24]

I love the Indiana Jones theme going on in the video. At least the man has the decency to crucify my truck in style. But just like Indy, his overview of the LC250 is fiction.

 

[TheMightyGoose]

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This is the definitive on- and off-road review of the J250-series Toyota Land Cruiser, putting its challenges into perspective by explaining how it fits into the 70-year Land Cruiser lineage, together with the 2024 Lexus GX550.

All these YouTubers saying Toyota got it wrong

Thousands of new LC owners saying Toyota got it right.

Guess which one Toyota will concern itself with

 

[bobs619]

He need to take it out of eco mode.

 

[LandcruiserNut]

If I only had a brain…….

 

[ctgallosb]

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This is the definitive on- and off-road review of the J250-series Toyota Land Cruiser, putting its challenges into perspective by explaining how it fits into the 70-year Land Cruiser lineage, together with the 2024 Lexus GX550.

This is not a definitive review. Apart from the cool history map of the LC at the beginning, this is the same “not a Land Cruiser” bs video. Never as good as whatever it used to be. Even the LC 300 which was $90k, vastly inferior in most OR and was so unpopular they sold less than 1k the final years so they discontinued it…but in YouTube videos it can’t be beat

 

[Impatient]

Finally watched because I was curious. Basically it comes down to him thinking that the engine feels underpowered. Which sort of makes me wonder whether he ever drove anything before the 100 series.

 

[pic72]

The video is backed and produced by Hagerty. The antagonist everyone seems to hate here is an award winning journalist and specializes in automotive reviews. I thought it was very informative and interesting to understand the lineage of the Land Cruiser. I don’t agree with everything he says, however, I get where he’s coming from. I’m a big fan of Top Gear and GT on Amazon, and this type of critical review isn’t anything different than how journalists have criticized other cars.

It is a four cylinder engine, it is loud, and it is rough. That’s a fact and I don’t think anyone here could really argue anything different from that. And the six cylinder Lexus would walk the four cylinder Toyota on the highway, but I’m ok with that because I didn’t buy this truck to race on the highway. His critique on the interior is a bit off since everything is really the same (maybe the quality of the leather is different), and the screen is the same useable area between the Toyota (*LC/FE) and Lexus, but that’s just his personal review. But I find my LC to still be silent (quiet/demure) luxury. Just had someone say to me…that’s a Toyota….as a statement. Anyway, it’s actually a good watch regardless of what others are saying. It’s not some amateur trying to get clicks…it’s a full production review and a good history lesson on the Land Cruiser.

 

[Impatient]

The video is backed and produced by Hagerty. The antagonist everyone seems to hate here is an award winning journalist and specializes in automotive reviews. I thought it was very informative and interesting to understand the lineage of the Land Cruiser. I don’t agree with everything he says, however, I get where he’s coming from. I’m a big fan of Top Gear and GT on Amazon, and this type of critical review isn’t anything different than how journalists have criticized other cars.

It is a four cylinder engine, it is loud, and it is rough. That’s a fact and I don’t think anyone here could really argue anything different from that. And the six cylinder Lexus would walk the four cylinder Toyota on the highway, but I’m ok with that because I didn’t buy this truck to race on the highway. His critique on the interior is a bit off since everything is really the same (maybe the quality of the leather is different), and the screen is the same useable area between the Toyota (*LC/FE) and Lexus, but that’s just his personal review. But I find my LC to still be silent (quiet/demure) luxury. Just had someone say to me…that’s a Toyota….as a statement. Anyway, it’s actually a good watch regardless of what others are saying. It’s not some amateur trying to get clicks…it’s a full production review and a good history lesson on the Land Cruiser.

The production value is super high. I do think he’s mostly drawing comparisons to the previous wagon land cruisers (100 and 200) because what he’s talking about is a certain level of power and engine smoothness. But prior to those two, it was actually very common for the Land Cruisers to feel a little underpowered - because the primary purpose of the vehicle wasn’t to be luxury. So I suppose his broader point is he feels it’s too expensive to not feel luxurious and powerful in the manner he’s accustomed to, which is certainly a fair critique. Not one I share, but one I understand. The video is very well done and didn’t make me angry at all. If this version of the Land Cruiser ends up having a much shorter useful life then I’ll be critical too. Although I have to say that I don’t find it underpowered at all, at least coming from a V8 pickup.

 

[rjmh]

I like Jason’s reviews perhaps because he takes the Clarkson approach: state an opinion regardless of accuracy and then bend everything in that perspective.

Jason got it wrong. He didn’t understand the drive train and its purpose. He didn’t understand the Prado is the actual worldwild utilitarian vehicle not the most recent Land Cruisers. He doesn’t understand what stealth wealth means. And he didn't understand what effortless and low stress means.

I was thinking about this cruising out to the ski hill getting 23mpg never seeing the engine go above 2K rpm having a quiet conversation. He was right in that the 1958 got us home as well.

Since I sorta like his reviews I am going to throw him a bone and say I think the fact that Toyota gave all these guys first editions confuses them. They need to drive the 1958 to see the value. It is rugged. It is/should be reliable. It is understated. It is, at least in Canada, 75-80% the cost of the cheapest Lexus GX.

 

[deftkillerstu]

I couldn’t disagree more with this video. My steering wheel doesn’t vibrate on the interstate. I think it’s awesome starting from a complete stop with the torque the hybrid provides. I’ve never felt like it was sluggish when needing to pass someone. I’ve never felt like I didn’t have enough cargo space at all going on family road trips or moving my daughter to college. What car was he driving, because it wasn’t the car I own and love.

 

[Lenny33]

I enjoyed the video and found it very informative.
What I don’t understand is how there could be so much research and good facts put in the video, all to have completely missed the mark when he said that it makes no power and struggles to get off the line in comparison with previous land cruisers..
Are you kidding me?!
This vehicle has so much more pep off the line and so much more power - you instantly feel it. And the numbers back this up with more power and torque than previous models. For such a well-made video with so many facts, it was very disappointing to see his personal bias creep in with these stupid statements.

 

[ultane]

…because he takes the Clarkson approach: state an opinion regardless of accuracy and then bend everything in that perspective.

This.. X

 

[mns1971]

Negative-slanted videos generate more views; it's human nature to focus on the negative, and these content creators know it.

Yup old saying lives true ...misery loves company and vice versa!

 

[HarvLC]

Jason has an annoying on-screen presence whether w Hagerty or previously w Motor Trend. Clarkson is at least funny.

My old 100 series was smooth in its power delivery but it was underpowered, both in pulling power / torque and acceleration. The 5.7 in the 200 was a great engine; I had that in a 2wd Tundra. But that is very atypical of Land Cruisers historically and, even still, that thirsty V8 only produced ~400ft lb of torque vs my 1958’s 465 rating. Also, it’s interesting how the 200’s appeal spiked up after it was discontinued. Somewhat like an early 90’s Supra that struggled to sell when new.

I wish Toyota would provide lightly-optioned base LC’s to the press, rather than loaded FEs. The <$65k price point might help steer them away from illogically comparing a new light-duty Prado to a discontinued wagon. They instead should be comparing the new LC (and its GX 550 cousin) to the discontinued GX 470. Jason should know that but he just tries too damn hard to be cute when he’s far from it.

 

[Meteor]

Actually have a title with either unfinished sentence or question mark can get more attention. or in this case as a reverse psychology rate something super popular with very negative title might do the trick to the curious ones

...with the creator making a confused face while looking to the side. I now unsub from creators that do this. Even though it does work, I hate it. The Beast I think started this; he openly admitted he has a dozen different expressions he kept using on the video thumbnails, and his view went straight up.

 

[Meteor]

Did something similar yesterday and could not have enjoyed it more. 14 creek crossings and countless muddy hills, and fabulously fun and solid at all times.

With that color, I can't even tell it's dirty!

 

[HarvLC]

Motor Week’s test of the 1993 LC with its new 4.5L six. I guess its 11.9 sec 0-60 performance is an example of what Jason described as “effortless”?!

 

[Area 51]

They really did screw up the Hybrid only engine offering.
The V6 turbo is a much better setup/ system for this vehicle.
They have to make EPA numbers somehow this is one of those major concession's where the consumer eats it.
I do have one arriving in a couple of weeks.
If the 550GXs were actually avialbe that would be my choice hands down.
Any differences are easily fixed, the motr is not.
Already planning on swapping out the Cruiser for the GX in a year or two if it goes as I suspect.
Oiy vey I coulda had a GX.

 

[neema2k]

They really did screw up the Hybrid only engine offering.
The V6 turbo is a much better setup/ system for this vehicle.
They have to make EPA numbers somehow this is one of those major concession's where the consumer eats it.
I do have one arriving in a couple of weeks.
If the 550GXs were actually avialbe that would be my choice hands down.
Any differences are easily fixed, the motr is not.
Already planning on swapping out the Cruiser for the GX in a year or two if it goes as I suspect.
Oiy vey I coulda had a GX.

Sounds like someone who hasn't driven this ride but a couple of miles, if any. I have been taking this thing on 500 mile road trips and driven it in the mountains and sand by lakes and rivers and your comment could not be more ignorant. The immediate torque will never be there for you on the v6 GX. Why don't you get a GX and save yourself all this self pity. Theres a forum for that to bask in your v6 mall talk.