A stock LC on 20s amongst modded Broncos and Wranglers. Off-road

[Syed117]

Did some mild off-roading yesterday. Wanted to see how the Grandtreks on 20s would do.

Turns out I was literally the only truck that wasn't a Bronco or a Wrangler. One of the wrangler guys had sticker on the back that said "bronco rescue vehicle". Seemed a little aggressive. I think I was the only person out of maybe 15 who was on basic street tires. Everyone else seemed to have lifts and AT tires.

Nothing crazy or technical, but I was surprised. Even the guy in the Bronco behind me said he was surprised how well it did in some of the trickier spots.

In 4lo the entire time. Engine braking was an issue. The LC wanted to go more than I wanted it to downhill. Had to go into manual and into 1st gear to get some more control.

I will say that for basic easy off road stuff, especially in the dry or not crazy muddy, the tires did really well. I went in expecting a disaster but came away feeling better about them. Will still be upgrading at some point, but the LC got me through despite the weakest point, the tires.

Yes, I should have removed the mud flaps. Completely slipped my mind and they hit several times.

I have about 5 hours of footage from the woods and the actual trails that I need to edit down. Will share that here once it's done. That's where the good stuff is.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Behind the grill at the end of the day.

 

[LCOceans]

Very cool. Looks like a great time. Looking forward to the video when you post it!!

 

[BossEvelope]

Is that Hunter Mountain with NORA?

 

[Syed117]

Is that Hunter Mountain with NORA?

Yeah. Was a good time.

 

[BossEvelope]

Yeah. Was a good time.

Awesome! I’m actually booked for the next weekend. Similar to you I’ll be in stock 20s.

 

[Syed117]

Awesome! I’m actually booked for the next weekend. Similar to you I’ll be in stock 20s.

Nice. Remember to take the mud guards off. You'll probably get a lot dirtier, but will prevent those hits.

 

[Syed117]

Video. Should have cut it down a lot more, but too tired. Manually select 4K for the best quality since youtube seems to always want to default to 1080 or less.

Skip around. Narrow trail sections are around 22:00.

 

[winnrider]

Video. Should have cut it down a lot more, but too tired. Manually select 4K for the best quality since youtube seems to always want to default to 1080 or less.

Skip around. Narrow trail sections are around 22:00.

Great video. Agree with your comments on tires. If I had other vehicles riding with me I wouldn’t change the tires until I had too. But driving solo on any trails hairier than what you did would give me anxiety.

 

[LandcruiserNut]

Great pics! I don’t recognize those other vehicles. Bronco rescue vehicle, oh boy!!! Jealously!!!

 

[Bappy]

Did some mild off-roading yesterday. Wanted to see how the Grandtreks on 20s would do.

Turns out I was literally the only truck that wasn't a Bronco or a Wrangler. One of the wrangler guys had sticker on the back that said "bronco rescue vehicle". Seemed a little aggressive. I think I was the only person out of maybe 15 who was on basic street tires. Everyone else seemed to have lifts and AT tires.

Nothing crazy or technical, but I was surprised. Even the guy in the Bronco behind me said he was surprised how well it did in some of the trickier spots.

In 4lo the entire time. Engine braking was an issue. The LC wanted to go more than I wanted it to downhill. Had to go into manual and into 1st gear to get some more control.

I will say that for basic easy off road stuff, especially in the dry or not crazy muddy, the tires did really well. I went in expecting a disaster but came away feeling better about them. Will still be upgrading at some point, but the LC got me through despite the weakest point, the tires.

Yes, I should have removed the mud flaps. Completely slipped my mind and they hit several times.

I have about 5 hours of footage from the woods and the actual trails that I need to edit down. Will share that here once it's done. That's where the good stuff is.

Let me know if you have any questions.


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Behing the grill at the end of the day.

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Thank you for the Pics and the post! Make sure you pressure wash the piss out of your radiator!

 

[Syed117]

Thank you for the Pics and the post! Make sure you pressure wash the piss out of your radiator!

Haha. My neighbors probably think I'm a lunatic after they saw me pressure washing in the rain today.

 

[MJE]

Wow those pics show it as a great adventure! More than just the machine, I’m impressed with your driving skills to do that well with just the street 20”s too.

 

[Syed117]

Wow those pics show it as a great adventure! More than just the machine, I’m impressed with your driving skills to do that well with just the street 20”s too.

Thanks! But it wasn't anything too crazy. I didn't really know what I was doing. Most was slowly driving over slightly muddy dirt trails. Several spots with some rocks and climbs but just took it slow.

There was one muddy downhill section where I felt better tires would have helped, but there was definitely no issue getting over more dry sections even with medium sized rocks.

 

[BossEvelope]

Great video! Perfect time of the year for that ride with the foliage turning.

 

[APIOQM]

Any contact with rocks on the underside, or branches on the doors? This trail looks like a lot of fun!

 

[Syed117]

Any contact with rocks on the underside, or branches on the doors? This trail looks like a lot of fun!

I think there were a few minor scrapes against the skid plate. Nothing jarring. Hitting the mud guards was noticeable.

Definitely made contact with branches against the doors and some minor scrapes against the lower black plastic trim. A few scuff marks on the plastic but nothing too serious. No damage on the paint as far as I could tell after washing.

There are spots where the trail is narrow and there are larger rocks and trees close on the sides. You could damage the sides but with the cameras, sensors, and paying attention, it's not a problem.

It was pretty basic. For anything more serious, I think you really need a few inches of lift and better tires.

 

[Esquire]

The new Land Cruiser is in a class of its own. Significantly better looking, performing, built, driving than the others.

The LC looks like it stopped in to give a gentlemanly hello to the less polished and disheveled crowd and then moved on to its proper group.

 

[b407driver]

"...It was pretty basic. For anything more serious, I think you really need a few inches of lift and better tires."

You think? I'd agree on the better tires, but beyond that, the LC is a formidable offroad vehicle, out of the box. That "few inches of lift" (if not a long-travel setup) is only likely to detract from its offroad performance.

 

[BossEvelope]

Nice. Remember to take the mud guards off. You'll probably get a lot dirtier, but will prevent those hits.

Should I just remove the rear mud guards or front as well?

 

[DctrEvil]

Great video and so glad you were able to experience the LC's off road talents! Mine has factory 18's and the factory Michelin AT tires and I was just in Colorado with some "serious" and significantly modded off-road rigs and I have to say that I kept up and actually led the crowd for most of our off-roading. Unlocked the sway bar, but only had to get into 4 low a couple times. My factory rig did an amazing job handling everything I wanted it to! I leaned up against a tree and scratched one of my fender flares on a snowy, deeply rutted high mountain trail, which caused significantly more damage to my trail mates ! Honestly, I'm not interested in any trail more technical than what we did and unwilling to risk vehicle damage. It can do 90% of any trail I would ever want!