I posted this on a LC Facebook group, but wanted to share it here with you guys:
Pros
+The hybrid system is quick, and nothing like the 4Runner, completely different acceleration, breaking, and feel, I loved it. SO MUCH TORQUE!
+Steering: also completely different from the 4Runner, night and day difference, felt like a premium sedan or something (not a bad thing in my book), little effort to turn the wheel, no shakes at all even at high speeds or gravel roads.
+Build quality was excellent, matching my 4Runner, I played around with every button, pulled off every panel I could, and knocked around with everything from the front to back, solid stuff. Made in Japan for ya.
+The look. Wow does it look good in person. Every angle.
+Space, I just came back from car camping in the 4Runner, I had to lay diagonally to sleep, not a problem inside the LC w/ seats down, I was impressed.
+That battery step up in the cargo space is smaller in person than it looks in photos or on camera, wasnāt an issue
+Interior height, wow was it tall inside, much more than the 4Runner
+Driving position was absolutely perfect, could see everything around me with minimal blind spots
+Quality materials: aside from the excess interior plastic on the 1958, the buttons, steering wheel, and shifter felt great and super sturdy, I can see this lasting a long time
+A/C: it was 90 degrees and the 3 climate zone is fantastic, the rear head vents are a game changer as a 4Runner owner (& proud Golden Retriever owner)
+Quiet interior even at 75mph on I-95, minimal wind noise and no hood flapping like the GX 550 has
+No joke, the cloth seats felt better and more comfortable than my softex 4Runner seats (yes I donāt believe it either), material was nice even for cloth.
+Easy to close the back tailgate, way less heavy than the 4Runner, upper trims this is automatic, manual on the 1958
+Minimal body roll on turns, itās there, but way less than the 4Runner
Cons
-Unless your 6ft or taller (Iām 5ā 10), youāll have a hard time getting in and out of the LC, it needs some type of running board or rock rail to step on getting in. Your significant other aināt gonna be happy if sheās short haha (or kids will have issues as well)
-On the 1958 there is a bunch of hard plastic everywhere including the door handles themselves on the inside, it didnāt feel bad but for 56k I expected a little more cushion
-The design around the smaller 8 inch screen in the 1958 isnāt bad but still looks cheap and obvious that a bigger screen shouldāve been there
-Pop out glass doesnāt seem that practical, no way to partially open it for say a surf board or for lumber to stick out, good for quick drop ins, thatās about it.
Conclusion
I will be purchasing a Land Cruiser shortly. I was already 95% the way there thinking this was the right vehicle for me, and now Iām 100% convinced. It was literally everything I wanted & more. The design both interior and exterior is amazing. The drive is truly impressive for a body on frame suv. It does feel like an upgrade from the 4Runner. If you have the money, it feels worth it. That being said, the amount of plastic inside on the door panels was enough to convince me that the mid-tier trim is the way to go, better materials and lot of other nice creature comforts. These haters saying we need a V6 or V8 engine havenāt drove this new hybrid system, I see why now Toyota is putting it in the new Tacoma, 4Runner, and Land Cruiser.
My Advice
Skip the 1958 & First Edition: If youāre not in a rush to get an LC soon, I think the Mid-Tier trim without the premium package is the sweet spot at 62k, I think itās worth the upgrade cost, you get a lot of nice amenties and access to the full pallet of exterior colors. Iād stay away from First Editon or any LC over 75k, itās not worth it once it gets to that high of a price. I would consider the 1958 if you can get it for 53k or below (knock off 2-3K)ā¦ and so far these are not selling (very fast)ā¦ so come the end of Summer, I wonāt be surprised to see people getting good deals on the 1958. The most in-demand spec is the mid-tier, so donāt expect discounts anytime soon.
Pros
+The hybrid system is quick, and nothing like the 4Runner, completely different acceleration, breaking, and feel, I loved it. SO MUCH TORQUE!
+Steering: also completely different from the 4Runner, night and day difference, felt like a premium sedan or something (not a bad thing in my book), little effort to turn the wheel, no shakes at all even at high speeds or gravel roads.
+Build quality was excellent, matching my 4Runner, I played around with every button, pulled off every panel I could, and knocked around with everything from the front to back, solid stuff. Made in Japan for ya.
+The look. Wow does it look good in person. Every angle.
+Space, I just came back from car camping in the 4Runner, I had to lay diagonally to sleep, not a problem inside the LC w/ seats down, I was impressed.
+That battery step up in the cargo space is smaller in person than it looks in photos or on camera, wasnāt an issue
+Interior height, wow was it tall inside, much more than the 4Runner
+Driving position was absolutely perfect, could see everything around me with minimal blind spots
+Quality materials: aside from the excess interior plastic on the 1958, the buttons, steering wheel, and shifter felt great and super sturdy, I can see this lasting a long time
+A/C: it was 90 degrees and the 3 climate zone is fantastic, the rear head vents are a game changer as a 4Runner owner (& proud Golden Retriever owner)
+Quiet interior even at 75mph on I-95, minimal wind noise and no hood flapping like the GX 550 has
+No joke, the cloth seats felt better and more comfortable than my softex 4Runner seats (yes I donāt believe it either), material was nice even for cloth.
+Easy to close the back tailgate, way less heavy than the 4Runner, upper trims this is automatic, manual on the 1958
+Minimal body roll on turns, itās there, but way less than the 4Runner
Cons
-Unless your 6ft or taller (Iām 5ā 10), youāll have a hard time getting in and out of the LC, it needs some type of running board or rock rail to step on getting in. Your significant other aināt gonna be happy if sheās short haha (or kids will have issues as well)
-On the 1958 there is a bunch of hard plastic everywhere including the door handles themselves on the inside, it didnāt feel bad but for 56k I expected a little more cushion
-The design around the smaller 8 inch screen in the 1958 isnāt bad but still looks cheap and obvious that a bigger screen shouldāve been there
-Pop out glass doesnāt seem that practical, no way to partially open it for say a surf board or for lumber to stick out, good for quick drop ins, thatās about it.
Conclusion
I will be purchasing a Land Cruiser shortly. I was already 95% the way there thinking this was the right vehicle for me, and now Iām 100% convinced. It was literally everything I wanted & more. The design both interior and exterior is amazing. The drive is truly impressive for a body on frame suv. It does feel like an upgrade from the 4Runner. If you have the money, it feels worth it. That being said, the amount of plastic inside on the door panels was enough to convince me that the mid-tier trim is the way to go, better materials and lot of other nice creature comforts. These haters saying we need a V6 or V8 engine havenāt drove this new hybrid system, I see why now Toyota is putting it in the new Tacoma, 4Runner, and Land Cruiser.
My Advice
Skip the 1958 & First Edition: If youāre not in a rush to get an LC soon, I think the Mid-Tier trim without the premium package is the sweet spot at 62k, I think itās worth the upgrade cost, you get a lot of nice amenties and access to the full pallet of exterior colors. Iād stay away from First Editon or any LC over 75k, itās not worth it once it gets to that high of a price. I would consider the 1958 if you can get it for 53k or below (knock off 2-3K)ā¦ and so far these are not selling (very fast)ā¦ so come the end of Summer, I wonāt be surprised to see people getting good deals on the 1958. The most in-demand spec is the mid-tier, so donāt expect discounts anytime soon.
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