1958 folks.. regrets?

My 2 cents...

The higher trims feel all hat and no cowboy. I go off-road because it's fun. It is fun because it can be a challenge. I prefer a spotter to a camera, a good line to a massive tire and lift. I like the geometry of getting through an obstacle. If it was about making it simple, we would all be in unimogs on 40's.

I hate the geolanders. But, if they spec'd an A/T tire, Toyota would screw that up. I'll just pick my own, please and thank you. 17" steelies would be cool, then I could snag a set of those 255 BFG pizza cutters rubicon owners sell immediately.

The interior spec of the 1958 is delightfully quirky. I am 6'8" and despise powered seats. They are slow to adjust and limit the overall movement of the seats. Also, I am not sure what yall do waiting for a powered rear hatch, but they are insufferably slow to me. They are not easier to me. They are slow and loud and more complicated. Also, the cloth seats are pretty special. Not your average base trim material.

My interior wish list really is about simplifying.
1. I wish it had full vinyl floors.
2. Want a fold flat cargo area, which would be possible if they hadn't used the tumble-forward seat from the 3rd row spec.

The biggest issue I have with this platform is that it should have a mechanical E-brake. This is the most significant off-road oversight. It almost made me pass up the LC. They could add it in addition to the electronic parking brake even. This is a key piece of safety equipment when off-road and you have to back down a steep incline. Being able to drag a parking brake helps control the vehicle and prevents the heavy front end passing up the rear and flipping the truck.

I have to admit, the sway-bar disconnect is making Toyota thousands. People obsessing if they need it, willing to pay the 10k price difference. My 88 FJ-62 managed without them. So do many other 4WDs. They really seemed to tap into the fomo on this one thing. Rather the locker than the sway-bar disconnect.

The 1958 is 300lbs lighter than the next trim level. That, is not nothing. I can add a roof rack, winch and some cargo and be the same weight over all. THIS MATTERS!

Heated mirrors do seem very important geographically. I don't need them but understand those who do for sure. Seems like an oversight from Toyota.

The round headlights are awesome. Definitely some FJ-60, 70 series vibes. It puts marmite on my toast.
 
My 2 cents...

The higher trims feel all hat and no cowboy. I go off-road because it's fun. It is fun because it can be a challenge. I prefer a spotter to a camera, a good line to a massive tire and lift. I like the geometry of getting through an obstacle. If it was about making it simple, we would all be in unimogs on 40's.

I hate the geolanders. But, if they spec'd an A/T tire, Toyota would screw that up. I'll just pick my own, please and thank you. 17" steelies would be cool, then I could snag a set of those 255 BFG pizza cutters rubicon owners sell immediately.

The interior spec of the 1958 is delightfully quirky. I am 6'8" and despise powered seats. They are slow to adjust and limit the overall movement of the seats. Also, I am not sure what yall do waiting for a powered rear hatch, but they are insufferably slow to me. They are not easier to me. They are slow and loud and more complicated. Also, the cloth seats are pretty special. Not your average base trim material.

My interior wish list really is about simplifying.
1. I wish it had full vinyl floors.
2. Want a fold flat cargo area, which would be possible if they hadn't used the tumble-forward seat from the 3rd row spec.

The biggest issue I have with this platform is that it should have a mechanical E-brake. This is the most significant off-road oversight. It almost made me pass up the LC. They could add it in addition to the electronic parking brake even. This is a key piece of safety equipment when off-road and you have to back down a steep incline. Being able to drag a parking brake helps control the vehicle and prevents the heavy front end passing up the rear and flipping the truck.

I have to admit, the sway-bar disconnect is making Toyota thousands. People obsessing if they need it, willing to pay the 10k price difference. My 88 FJ-62 managed without them. So do many other 4WDs. They really seemed to tap into the fomo on this one thing. Rather the locker than the sway-bar disconnect.

The 1958 is 300lbs lighter than the next trim level. That, is not nothing. I can add a roof rack, winch and some cargo and be the same weight over all. THIS MATTERS!

Heated mirrors do seem very important geographically. I don't need them but understand those who do for sure. Seems like an oversight from Toyota.

The round headlights are awesome. Definitely some FJ-60, 70 series vibes. It puts marmite on my toast.
Agree on the floor, I’d much rather have entire floor of rubberized, easy clean material than the thin, cardboard “carpet”. Not that it is terrible by any means…

Also the lack of heated mirrors is one of those weird Toyota mysteries, especially in Midwest. Seems it could have been included as a cold weather package, after all we get a heated steering wheel. Not a huge thing either, just seems an odd oversight. Overall though, I couldn’t be happier, love driving the 1958, makes me happy.
 
"The 1958 is 300lbs lighter than the next trim level. That, is not nothing. I can add a roof rack, winch and some cargo and be the same weight over all. THIS MATTERS!"

I did not know that and agreed, it does matter.
 
No regrets. Tech stuff changes every few years; I'm fine with what I have screen size.
I prefer cloth over leather. My heated seats get really hot. I will like never take this thing on more than a fire road so SDM is not a want/need for me. I love the ride and the room inside.
 
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