18’’ or 20’’ for winter?

[REB27]

I am not buying separate wheels this time around but have done so several times and bought wheels, TPM sensors, and tires from Tire Rack and they always calibrated fine.

 

[TrailWhale]

There are some advantages to just doing seasonal swaps on one set of wheels:

• Easier storage, tires are much lighter without air/wheels!
• Don't need to buy second set of wheels
• Don't need to buy/set up second set of TPMS
• Winter tires can wear fast so you'll be installing a new set every ~4 years anyway
• Support a local business that already fixes your flats for free.

Purely from a financial point of view, you'll of course come out ahead doing it yourself with the second set of wheels, but beyond just the total cost over a long period of time, it's not crazy to just do old fashioned seasonal swap.

 

[crazycruizer]

Considering the same- dedicated winter wheels and tires- but concerned about tire pressure monitors. I know on my 100 series LC the sensors are inside the wheel, and I assumed it was the same on my 250. While the monitors are a luxury- I can certainly check my own tire pressure- I'd like to maintain the system for any new wheels I buy.

Is anyone adding new sensors when you buy new wheels? What does that look like when your wheel swap takes place going from summer to winter wheel/tire setups? Does it require calibration or does the car automatically pick up the new sensors?

Also, sensor part numbers would be great if you've bought them. Thanks!

I’m ordering these:
OEM TPMS sensor part# 42607-76020. Got them with 32% off from Toyota vendor online. Will let you know about my experience swapping wheels.

 

[crazycruizer]

There are some advantages to just doing seasonal swaps on one set of wheels:

• Easier storage, tires are much lighter without air/wheels!
• Don't need to buy second set of wheels
• Don't need to buy/set up second set of TPMS
• Winter tires can wear fast so you'll be installing a new set every ~4 years anyway
• Support a local business that already fixes your flats for free.

Purely from a financial point of view, you'll of course come out ahead doing it yourself with the second set of wheels, but beyond just the total cost over a long period of time, it's not crazy to just do old fashioned seasonal swap.

I think you have some good points. Though I was planning to get a new set of 18’’ rims anyway (my LC came with pre-installed 20’’) as I’m planning to do more off-road next spring/summer. So now I’m debating whether I should just get a set of A/T with 3-peak rating vs winter tires, likely the latter as performance in snow/ice is so much better. And as you mentioned, having a second set will probably be more cost effective in the long term.

 

[batchelor22]

I just bought some LCLC take offs with original sensors in them. I have read that our vehicles can store two sets of TPMS codes so I guess I will find out if that is true or not.

 

[TrailWhale]

So now I’m debating whether I should just get a set of A/T with 3-peak rating vs winter tires

I’m giving it a shot this winter with the Falken wildpeaks. Ask me how it worked out next spring!

For reference I ski ~50 days up the #2 sketchiest road.

(It’s not actually that sketchy 99% of the time, but it was funny to see it in an article)

 

[MileHiM5]

I’m ordering these:
OEM TPMS sensor part# 42607-76020. Got them with 32% off from Toyota vendor online. Will let you know about my experience swapping wheels.

Great info- thanks, crazycruiser! Eager to hear how it goes.

My preference is certainly going with two sets of wheels/tires- I do that with my BMW- which 1) allows for the proper tires on the road in both bad weather and good weather seasons, 2) uses up the 40,000 or so miles the OE Dunlop GrandTreks have ahead of them, and 3) puts a set of 18’ wheels in the garage along with the 20s the LC came with, which provides options for the future.

I just bought some LCLC take offs with original sensors in them. I have read that our vehicles can store two sets of TPMS codes so I guess I will find out if that is true or not.

Where did you find the take offs with TPMS sensors, batchelor22?

 

[batchelor22]

Great info- thanks, crazycruiser! Eager to hear how it goes.

My preference is certainly going with two sets of wheels/tires- I do that with my BMW- which 1) allows for the proper tires on the road in both bad weather and good weather seasons, 2) uses up the 40,000 or so miles the OE Dunlop GrandTreks have ahead of them, and 3) puts a set of 18’ wheels in the garage along with the 20s the LC came with, which provides options for the future.


Where did you find the take offs with TPMS sensors, batchelor22?

Local owner who upgraded to Tacoma 18” wheels and larger tires. Pure luck and timing. $400 for the set of 4

We may be only 2 of 3 LC owners in our small city.

 

[MileHiM5]

Local owner who upgraded to Tacoma 18” wheels and larger tires. Pure luck and timing. $400 for the set of 4

That makes me cry a little..! Nice pick up- guess I’ll start my search now

 

[batchelor22]

That makes me cry a little..! Nice pick up- guess I’ll start my search now

Was a total fluke, saw his post for tires, told him if he ever sold the wheels I’d be interested, told me they were also for sale w TPMS, grabbed them the next day,

 

[AreJay]

Considering the same- dedicated winter wheels and tires- but concerned about tire pressure monitors. I know on my 100 series LC the sensors are inside the wheel, and I assumed it was the same on my 250. While the monitors are a luxury- I can certainly check my own tire pressure- I'd like to maintain the system for any new wheels I buy.

Is anyone adding new sensors when you buy new wheels? What does that look like when your wheel swap takes place going from summer to winter wheel/tire setups? Does it require calibration or does the car automatically pick up the new sensors?

Also, sensor part numbers would be great if you've bought them. Thanks!

Not sure what the part number is for the sensors, but there are aftermarket options available - check out this thread... Land Cruiser Wheels & Tires

 

[AreJay]

Not sure what the part number is for the sensors, but there are aftermarket options available - check out this thread... Land Cruiser Wheels & Tires

TPMS part number

Anyone know the part number for the LC's TPMS? I know they can be switched over from the stock wheels, but buying a second set would save a lot of hassle.

www.landcruiserforum.com

 

[batchelor22]

Reviewed our Owners Manual, it does confirm that we can store two sets of TPMS codes, so once programmed, switching will require no assistance from tire shop or dealer. Good news!

 

[NoMe cruiser]

I was kinda on the fence about purchasing another set of tpms for winter wheels. I read reviews where aftermarket sensors don’t last nearly as long as OEM and to purchase 4 OEM sensors would be north of $200. My state doesn’t require sensors for inspection. I decided not to get another set. I think it’s a good safety feature but honestly this never would have become an issue if Ford wouldn’t have told customers to drive their SUV’s with a dangerously low amount of air in the tires. I typically do a once over of my tires on a weekly basis.

 

[Altitude]

I think you have some good points. Though I was planning to get a new set of 18’’ rims anyway (my LC came with pre-installed 20’’) as I’m planning to do more off-road next spring/summer. So now I’m debating whether I should just get a set of A/T with 3-peak rating vs winter tires, likely the latter as performance in snow/ice is so much better. And as you mentioned, having a second set will probably be more cost effective in the long term.

I’m relatively a fan of a second set of winter wheels, but not understanding how that approach is more cost effective. If we pay $700-$1500 for that second set of wheels, how much are your tire stores charging you guys to swap tires?

 

[mkg]

I change my own at home... maybe a $2-300 investment for tools, where shops usually charge you ~$100 for the swap. (twice a year)

 

[NoMe cruiser]

I’m relatively a fan of a second set of winter wheels, but not understanding how that approach is more cost effective. If we pay $700-$1500 for that second set of wheels, how much are your tire stores charging you guys to swap tires?

Generally ~$20/tire, probably $25 by now. Part of it for me is knowing I can swap out at anytime. Takes me less than an hour. Don't have to make another appointment and spend an hour at the garage twiddling my thumbs. If I go camping for a few days I can take an extra spare. If I do get a flat I can throw another tire in the cargo area till the flat is fixed. It's not for everyone but I have the space to store them. So I paid $750 for a set of FE rims. If it costs me $200/year to swap out twice at the garage the rims paid off after 4 years and having the convenience of an extra set.

 

[crazycruizer]

I’m relatively a fan of a second set of winter wheels, but not understanding how that approach is more cost effective. If we pay $700-$1500 for that second set of wheels, how much are your tire stores charging you guys to swap tires?

The extra cost would be essentially buying a new set of rims which I found for $750 (OEM from LC 1958). I already own the required tools for changing. Swapping-aligning+taxes easily in the $150+ range here in NY Plus the time…

 

[Altitude]

Generally ~$20/tire, probably $25 by now. Part of it for me is knowing I can swap out at anytime. Takes me less than an hour. Don't have to make another appointment and spend an hour at the garage twiddling my thumbs. If I go camping for a few days I can take an extra spare. If I do get a flat I can throw another tire in the cargo area till the flat is fixed. It's not for everyone but I have the space to store them. So I paid $750 for a set of FE rims. If it costs me $200/year to swap out twice at the garage the rims paid off after 4 years and having the convenience of an extra set.

Makes sense, and these wheels are inexpensive enough that the money works. Porsche wheels would be 4 grand if I wanted a nice set.

 

[MileHiM5]

I change my own at home... maybe a $2-300 investment for tools, where shops usually charge you ~$100 for the swap. (twice a year)

Surprised that the tools to dismount, balance and remount tires can be had for just a few hundred dollars! Or are you talking about jack/impact wrench/sockets to install wheels?