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More interested in economy, not performance. Would be interested in those numbers.
Premium Fuel or not?
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More interested in economy, not performance. Would be interested in those numbers.
Same here
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Any improvements in economy from less restrictive air inlets are usually so small as to be unmeasurable.
Probably the same for different fuel grades since most of us aren’t running around demanding full power to the point octane difference is going to make much more than a small percentage of difference.
I might still end up replacing the stock airbox and boost tubes, along with some tuning. I want more power, but I have no expectations that fuel economy will improve from those efforts.
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Not sure what their offering will be, but tests show that less restrictive air filter options, such as K&N, allow markedly more particulates to pass through. As many of us will be using our LC's offroad in dusty conditions, best carefully consider this factor.
100% agree. Read the manual. Don't agree? Do what you want, see what happens. Seems pretty straightforward.
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Of course, the alternative is, just stop following the threads one finds repetitive or irritating. They eventually fade away. I am still hopeful the issue will be addressed by the individual who posted regarding his personal interaction with Toyota engineering.
Truck cost was $70k. I’m not skimping on a few dollars a fill up.
And agree, don’t like the thread, maybe just walk away.
And agree, don’t like the thread, maybe just walk away.
Agree with not censoring content. My only complaint is with redundancy. I think moderators could do a better job and have been remiss on these boards where it comes to pruning and unifying redundant threads. It detracts from the utility of the site and ease of finding relevant information when content is spread amongst 20 redundant threads instead of a unified one. Other boards do a much better job with this while also not censoring content.
Lots of communities manage to find interested volunteers to manage that, hard to see why this one would be the exception.
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I have no plans to run anything with an oiled “filter”. There are plenty of manufacturers who offer dry media filters of OEM quality material in a cone shaped filter that increase the surface area to allow greater flow without sacrificing filtering ability.
What perplexes me is why anyone still uses the oiled filters at all? If you take two well made (from a surface area and flow characteristics) filters one oiled and one dry media; the oiled filter will only out flow the dry filter by maybe 5%. Not enough of an advantage to allow in more particulate for sure.
One time I had an issue with the fuel pump and had to get the entire fuel system replaced in a vehicle. This vehicle was a BMW and required premium gas. They pulled up the history of the last 10 or 15 times I fueled up my car, and the car sensed what kind of gas I put in it every time. Due to this, and them seeing that I use premium gas all the time, they deemed that the damage was not my fault. I don’t want to know what would happen if I required this $30,000 procedure and I wasn’t using premium gas. They probably could’ve used it as a reason to say I was miss using the vehicle or whatever. So for all your cheapskates out there, I’m one of you. I like to be as frugal as possible and not spend money on unnecessary things. But I will never put base gasoline in my land cruiser because if anything ever goes wrong? I don’t want them to use that as a reason, that it was somehow my fault.
I have to imagine with all the tech in vehicles (sensors, storing of data) these days they can determine what fuel is being used. I’m with you on this.
I want to believe my LC power train is bulletproof but in the chance it’s not, and there is a massive failure, I don’t want to give Toyota the opening to wiggle out of their obligation to make things right.
It shall be premium.
Definitely something to pay attention to. That said, I drove about 90k miles with a K&N conical on a snorkel setup with my 2019 Ranger without any issues. I cleaned it and reoiled after each off-roading trip.
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I go WAY back, to the oil-bath air cleaners. I wonder how efficient they were? Thing is, that was all there was...
Here’s an interesting exhibit for this discussion. The recently announced 4-Runner, with the same engine, trans, horsepower and torque has a minimum requirement of Regular fuel.
Tuned differently?
The most logical explanation I’ve seen thus far was a comment on another forum. The user said “I think it goes back to the LC being a "premium" product, and there may be some NVH targets that it won't meet on 87Reg.”
So, assuming Premium fuel will quiet the engine, then the LC would be a quieter ride than the 4Runner.
