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Werlyb23 said:

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Rochemsam said:

Thanks for the reply. I guess the break in period is a little more than I anticipated from the posts. I guess will keep it rolling and see where it takes us
If it’s going to do 14 MPG it better give a V8 rumble than a hybrid whine

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Rochemsam said:

Well that many threads, I would say there is something to it. Any way, we shall see how it progresses.
However if this 4 cylinder 350 HP HYBRID settles at the same MPG as a 600 HP, very heavy, very square vehicle (latest MB G63 AMG) then something is not right.
Time will tell

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Tripod1404 said:

MB G63 AMG has ~65% higher gas consumption than LC though. I don't get your point.

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Werlyb23 said:

Nothing to it….just depends on how you drive and where you drive along with being stock etc…
At 1500 miles I’m still at 24.1 MPG
Haven’t been lower then 23.4. Stock 1958 with the roof rack

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Rochemsam said:

So got the LC FE July 4th. At this point it has 600 miles on the ODO. The MPG is at 14.3 MPG. The car gets driven once a week for a 40 mile commute (20 miles each way including 15 miles each way on the highway) May be some additional 4 to 10 mike trips thrown in there.
I have tried to drive it both ECO & Regular modes. Deliberately trying to increase MPG. It goes up by 0.1 to 0.2 and then comes right back down.

Now I also own a 2024 Final Edition Jeep Rubicon 392 (6.4L 500 HP/lbft) with 2K miles on the ODO.
and 2021 MB G63 AMG (Hand built twin turbo V8, 588 HP) approx 2K on the ODO.
Both these high performance, heavy V8 SUVs average approx 14 MPG.

What is wrong with this picture. My understanding is this HYBRID LC IS supposed to do 22 to 25 MPG.

Please advise, I am baffled.
Best,
Sam

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HarvLC said:

What did you expect to achieve by writing Toyota? First of all, the published ratings are estimates by the EPA. Secondly, the EPA explicitly states that the estimates are for comparison purposes and that actual results will vary for many reasons, including driving conditions, style, etc.

You’re writing to the wrong party and complaining about not receiving something that was never promised in the first place.

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NY TriBxr said:

My feelings are: (1) Toyota is claiming those 23/25mpg stats by marketing them on its website for this vehicle and (2) I (and I suspect many of us) are expecting strong mpg by spending a very high purchase price on this hybrid. I for one would not have spent this money or purchased this hybrid for 14mpg performance in local driving.

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HarvLC said:

What did you expect to achieve by writing Toyota? First of all, the published ratings are estimates by the EPA. Secondly, the EPA explicitly states that the estimates are for comparison purposes and that actual results will vary for many reasons, including driving conditions, style, etc.

You’re writing to the wrong party and complaining about not receiving something that was never promised in the first place.

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HarvLC said:

Toyota (as do other manufacturers) has an asterisk by the mpg figures that explains their source and purpose. It’s a shame that you didn’t bother to read it (much less the information at the EPA’s site) before buying and placing misguided reliance on the ratings.

No one has ever said that a Land Cruiser is inexpensive nor fuel efficient. But compared to prior versions sold in the US, this new ‘24 is dramatically improved while being more powerful (at least for torque).

Stop whining to Toyota and take the time to better understand the EPA’s test method and how the LC’s turbo and hybrid motor affect performance and efficiency.

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