2024 deliveries LC250 vs Cybertruck

[LC-120]

Yes but none is EV. We'll see if they will keep the name Landcruiser.
This EV model may be a very successful one worldwide, as the Model Y.
As you know Land Rover has is no more chassis-on-frame since 2017. The famous DEFENDER "which shares no components or technology with its predecessor Defender model, has permanent all-wheel drive, locking differentials in the centre and rear, and a two-speed transfer case. Unlike the previous Defender models, the new model has an aluminium unibody instead of a body-on-frame construction"

Millions of people do not have a purpose to go off-road but they would like a reliable car able to do it when they need.

Regarding american EV potential market have a look:

Toyota beats Tesla as America's electric car brand despite selling a single model in the US

Besides a solid-state battery in the making, Toyota has a huge perception potential to win over affluent Americans when it comes to buying an EV from an automaker other than Tesla. It is seemingly positioned to enter the next leg of the EV race with vehicles that are both competitive and desired...

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[Wanderlost]

Good points and I agree. Many here have probably noticed the titanic shift in the electric vehicle industry this week; the reckoning is worthy of a moment of silence. I still have confidence in Toyota and the LC 250 hybrid technology. ICE emissions are an existential threat to my personal health, so I understand EVs are the future; however those EV manufacturers on the losing end of technology investments will pay a heavy price.

 

[jnsplace]

There's obviously a big push for hybrids and EVs. Personally, I'm specifically looking hybrid for my next car. However, it's hard to find that perfect vehicle, and I'm not sure the LC Is it for me quite yet. My honey says his next car will likely be a EV, I imagine it'll be another 5 years + before that happens.
I knew it was a matter of time when our small town started getting public chargers. It's just a matter of time.

Lastly, it'll be interesting how "futuristic" the look of the cars and their an acceptance of them. I'm not sure I'm quite ready to go that far into Sci-Fi style. Personal opinion there.

 

[LC-120]

In a small city you do not need public chargers. If you can charge at home it's just perfect. We live in a big city and I only charge at home, low amps during the night, at 80%. This is the best for battery lifetime. We use the EV in the city and 50 miles around.
In US there are still FREE charging stations . Not the fast DC chargers but sometimes they are useful.

 

[LC-120]

Toyota claims hybrids better for environment than EVs in Australia

Even as Toyota Australia prepares to release its first fully-electric model for Australia in early 2024 – the BZ4X midsize SUV – the brand continues One BZ4X battery could be used for 40 RAV4 hybrids. We analyse Toyota’s suggestion that the latter is what’s best for the environment

www.chasingcars.com.au

 

[LC-120]

Look where we are going..... probably US transition will be longer:

2035 petrol and diesel car ban: 12 things you need to know (updated)

The ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars is now set for 2035, pushed back from 2030 by Rishi Sunak. Here's what it means for you.

www.driving.co.uk

 

[LC-120]

I have a strong feeling there is no reason to check other brands from now on. It looks like Toyota and Tesla will provide all you need and can imagine from now on.
Corolla Hybrid, Crown, Grand Highlander 2.5 Hybrid AWD, the new Tacoma and Tundra Hybrid, the new Landcruiser 250 then Cybertruck, Model 3 Highland, Model 2...... plus all the new Lexus more or less electrified....

 

[LC-120]

what do you understand, did they drive their Subarus on that Level 4 trail ??

Muddy Tesla Cybertruck duo reported off-roading in Tahoe National Forest

If the Tesla Cybertruck did survive a Level 4 trail, then the all-electric pickup truck may indeed have some decent off-road capabilities.

www.teslarati.com

 

[LC-120]

How the Tesla Cybertruck’s Price and Range Will Determine Its Fate

The size of the market for Elon Musk’s electric pickup will hinge on how much the company ends up charging for it. Here’s what to look for when Tesla releases final specs.

www.bloomberg.com

We will see the specs and price next week !

 

[LC-120]

Four more days !

 

[supersix]

Four more days !

It's just so crazy looking but I'll be following it. If Tesla offered an extreme/off-road SUV version of the Cyber Truck, I think it would do well.

 

[LC-120]

7,435 LB-FT of torque for the ALL Wheel Drive Cybertruck. Over 10,000 LB-FT for the Cyberbeast. Is this real ???

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#payment

 

[supersix]

7,435 LB-FT of torque for the ALL Wheel Drive Cybertruck. Over 10,000 LB-FT for the Cyberbeast. Is this real ???

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#payment

I bet the immediate torque is awesome. It also has some impressive specs in towing and payload. The actual prices is significantly higher than Tesla's initial quotes, which seems to one major disappointment from what I'm reading.

 

[jnsplace]

I'm not keen on the design and for 80K for AWD, big pass for me. Regardless of the specs. More interested in LC for many reasons.

 

[Wanderlost]

Tesla's battery pack has too many cells. I can't understand why Tesla would use stainless steel body panels with obsolete battery technology. It’s not clear to me who will be making replacement Tesla battery packs in 10 years.

 

[supersix]

Tesla's battery pack has too many cells. I can't understand why Tesla would use stainless steel body panels with obsolete battery technology. It’s not clear to me who will be making replacement Tesla battery packs in 10 years.

What manufacture is using the best battery packs right now?

 

[Wanderlost]

What manufacture is using the best battery packs right now?

Toyota has an advantage right now, however the industry is evolving very rapidly and there will be winners and losers.

 

[LC-120]

Toyota has just one electric model and the volumes are really low. If they have an advantage today, it is on paper.

Tesla must develop battery replacement solutions in short time. Otherwise the EV enthusiasm may just disappear in 2-3 years.

 

[jnsplace]

If the Tesla is like the Starlink, then it'll be a couple of generations before they start using "standard" supported equipment.
Personal opinion that other manufactures do EV better than Toyota, but time will tell.

 

[LC-120]

Did you find any official information regarding the battery and range extender capacity ? Probably you only get these "details" when you order the car .