Skid Plates and Rock Rails

Is it possible that we’re over thinking the fact that the factory plates attach to the radiator bracket? These aren’t cosmetic parts and certainly Toyota engineers have at least considered that. If some of the contributors here are going to take their new 60k vehicle and do some rock bashing, I get it but for the majority of even the weekend overlanding crowd, I gotta think factory skids are good and if they aren’t, you likely have bigger problems.
There have been a few cases, including one during an early review, showing that if you accidentally hit something there you’re likely to damage the radiator. That cross member doesn’t appear to be very strong, the mistake seems to be that Toyota decided to connect a protective shield to a vital component — if your skid plate takes a big hit now you’ve got to worry about radiator damage. For most of us it probably won’t happen, but decoupling the two is a lot better.
 
yikes just saw that... do you know of any skid plates that mount to the recovery points and have recessed bolts?
I still haven't found a skid plate I want
Slee Offroad is coming out with a skid plate soon. I just installed the Slee Rock Sliders which were very well made. I have the OEM skid plate, so I probably won't get the Slee skids.
 
Slee Offroad is coming out with a skid plate soon. I just installed the Slee Rock Sliders which were very well made. I have the OEM skid plate, so I probably won't get the Slee skids.
They look nice but they also mount to the radiator crossmember -- "Factory mounting points for easy installation." I've also got the factory plates and will stick with them unless I see something substantially better.
 
Do the OEM versions of these accessories come with the hardware? I noticed that’s the rock rails have a hardware kit that needs to be purchased but if I have the predator steps, is that the same hardware? Thanks!
Check out NYTOP for better rock rails and skid plates. They all bolt on to existing threads. Love mine.
 

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I’ve been looking at some of the NYTOP stuff. Looks really well built and solid.
 
Is it possible that we’re over thinking the fact that the factory plates attach to the radiator bracket? These aren’t cosmetic parts and certainly Toyota engineers have at least considered that. If some of the contributors here are going to take their new 60k vehicle and do some rock bashing, I get it but for the majority of even the weekend overlanding crowd, I gotta think factory skids are good and if they aren’t, you likely have bigger problems.
Agreed. As I was reading the concerns I was thinking that ppl probably shouldn’t be bashing the skids at that location anyway…just slightly behind that area, it’s bolted to solid structure. If you are challenging the skid right at that mounting point, you are probably well beyond the intent of the OEM design…or doing something you shouldn’t be…otherwise, the OEM skid should be fine for the 80% + of ppl that aren’t hard-core off-roading.
 
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Agreed. As I was reading the concerns I was thinking that ppl probably shouldn’t be bashing the skids at that location anyway…just slightly behind that area, it’s bolted to solid structure. If you are challenging the skid right at that mounting point, you are probably well beyond the intent of the OEM design…or doing something you shouldn’t be…otherwise, the OEM skid should be fine for the 80% + of ppl that aren’t hard-core off-roading.
My lower rad support got bent not from rock bashing but from a washed-out part of a trail that I didn’t notice in low-light. The nose of my car slammed into the ground.

Caveat: I had the shitty little debris shield when this happened, so I don’t know if the proper skid plate would have distributed the force enough to keep the bar from bending
 
Is it possible that we’re over thinking the fact that the factory plates attach to the radiator bracket? These aren’t cosmetic parts and certainly Toyota engineers have at least considered that. If some of the contributors here are going to take their new 60k vehicle and do some rock bashing, I get it but for the majority of even the weekend overlanding crowd, I gotta think factory skids are good and if they aren’t, you likely have bigger problems.
There are already multiple posts in the forum of people who took a hard hit while off-roading and broke their radiator mount because their skids were mounted there
 
My lower rad support got bent not from rock bashing but from a washed-out part of a trail that I didn’t notice in low-light. The nose of my car slammed into the ground.

Caveat: I had the shitty little debris shield when this happened, so I don’t know if the proper skid plate would have distributed the force enough to keep the bar from bending
I’m still looking into what’s right for me. I’m with you guys on it not being the best connection point. What kind of speed were you carrying when you took the hit?
 
I’m still looking into what’s right for me. I’m with you guys on it not being the best connection point. What kind of speed were you carrying when you took the hit?
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My lower rad support got bent not from rock bashing but from a washed-out part of a trail that I didn’t notice in low-light. The nose of my car slammed into the ground.

Caveat: I had the shitty little debris shield when this happened, so I don’t know if the proper skid plate would have distributed the force enough to keep the bar from bending
That makes me wonder if simply bolting a straight piece of heavy gauge steel from tow point to tow point would protect from specifically that type of impact (i.e., not relying on skid plates for that kind of impact). If it wasn’t dark outside, I’d go climb under my LC and start mentally designing…

Something like this: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...llow-3587263?store=1953&gStoreCode=1953&gQT=1
 
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That makes me wonder if simply bolting a straight piece of heavy gauge steel from tow point to tow point would protect from specifically that type of impact (i.e., not relying on skid plates for that kind of impact). If it wasn’t dark outside, I’d go climb under my LC and start mentally designing…

Something like this: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...llow-3587263?store=1953&gStoreCode=1953&gQT=1
I actually got a quote to do this at a mod shop but they never got back to me… guess I’ll just be more careful!
 
That makes me wonder if simply bolting a straight piece of heavy gauge steel from tow point to tow point would protect from specifically that type of impact (i.e., not relying on skid plates for that kind of impact). If it wasn’t dark outside, I’d go climb under my LC and start mentally designing…

Something like this: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/national-hardware-4062bc-3-in-x-36-in-solid-flat-1-8-in-plain-steel-yellow-3587263?store=1953&gStoreCode=1953&gQT=
Maybe? But any hit to the sloped skid plate behind it is still going to yank on or press on the radiator mount.
 
DV8 Front, Belly, and LCA skids.
Belly available now, and other 2 very soon.
Discount Code: cruiser250
 

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DV8 Front, Belly, and LCA skids.
Belly available now, and other 2 very soon.
Discount Code: cruiser250
DV8 (once they are available) and Victory 4x4 are the only two I know of that attach to the recovery points. Are there any others?
 
I just put Victory 4x4 engine and transmission skids on tonight. I have the transfer case skid on order. Very well made and I got the Aluminum option as I wanted to save some weight. They are well made and I’m very happy with them. Here is the trans skid next to the stock plastic “skid”.
Dang.. I wish they had a oil drain hatch and maybe one for the filter .. oh well, guess I'll just take them on and off every oil change
 
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