Don’t you have to do some drilling for the Victory skids? I thought I read that in their description of the product.
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There have been a few cases, including one during an early review, showing that if you accidentally hit something there you’re likely to damage the radiator. That cross member doesn’t appear to be very strong, the mistake seems to be that Toyota decided to connect a protective shield to a vital component — if your skid plate takes a big hit now you’ve got to worry about radiator damage. For most of us it probably won’t happen, but decoupling the two is a lot better.Is it possible that we’re over thinking the fact that the factory plates attach to the radiator bracket? These aren’t cosmetic parts and certainly Toyota engineers have at least considered that. If some of the contributors here are going to take their new 60k vehicle and do some rock bashing, I get it but for the majority of even the weekend overlanding crowd, I gotta think factory skids are good and if they aren’t, you likely have bigger problems.
Slee Offroad is coming out with a skid plate soon. I just installed the Slee Rock Sliders which were very well made. I have the OEM skid plate, so I probably won't get the Slee skids.yikes just saw that... do you know of any skid plates that mount to the recovery points and have recessed bolts?
I still haven't found a skid plate I want
They look nice but they also mount to the radiator crossmember -- "Factory mounting points for easy installation." I've also got the factory plates and will stick with them unless I see something substantially better.Slee Offroad is coming out with a skid plate soon. I just installed the Slee Rock Sliders which were very well made. I have the OEM skid plate, so I probably won't get the Slee skids.
Check out NYTOP for better rock rails and skid plates. They all bolt on to existing threads. Love mine.Do the OEM versions of these accessories come with the hardware? I noticed that’s the rock rails have a hardware kit that needs to be purchased but if I have the predator steps, is that the same hardware? Thanks!
Yes they come with the hardwareCheck out NYTOP for better rock rails and skid plates. They all bolt on to existing threads. Love mine.
What about something like these skid plate bolt protectors? I'm likely going with the Victory skids because they mount to the recovery points. I'm planning to pick these protectors up.I have the factory plates. The one thing that gives me reservations about the Victory 4x4 plate is the bolts aren't recessed.
That would certainly be an improvement.What about something like these skid plate bolt protectors? I'm likely going with the Victory skids because they mount to the recovery points. I'm planning to pick these protectors up.
Agreed. As I was reading the concerns I was thinking that ppl probably shouldn’t be bashing the skids at that location anyway…just slightly behind that area, it’s bolted to solid structure. If you are challenging the skid right at that mounting point, you are probably well beyond the intent of the OEM design…or doing something you shouldn’t be…otherwise, the OEM skid should be fine for the 80% + of ppl that aren’t hard-core off-roading.Is it possible that we’re over thinking the fact that the factory plates attach to the radiator bracket? These aren’t cosmetic parts and certainly Toyota engineers have at least considered that. If some of the contributors here are going to take their new 60k vehicle and do some rock bashing, I get it but for the majority of even the weekend overlanding crowd, I gotta think factory skids are good and if they aren’t, you likely have bigger problems.
My lower rad support got bent not from rock bashing but from a washed-out part of a trail that I didn’t notice in low-light. The nose of my car slammed into the ground.Agreed. As I was reading the concerns I was thinking that ppl probably shouldn’t be bashing the skids at that location anyway…just slightly behind that area, it’s bolted to solid structure. If you are challenging the skid right at that mounting point, you are probably well beyond the intent of the OEM design…or doing something you shouldn’t be…otherwise, the OEM skid should be fine for the 80% + of ppl that aren’t hard-core off-roading.
There are already multiple posts in the forum of people who took a hard hit while off-roading and broke their radiator mount because their skids were mounted thereIs it possible that we’re over thinking the fact that the factory plates attach to the radiator bracket? These aren’t cosmetic parts and certainly Toyota engineers have at least considered that. If some of the contributors here are going to take their new 60k vehicle and do some rock bashing, I get it but for the majority of even the weekend overlanding crowd, I gotta think factory skids are good and if they aren’t, you likely have bigger problems.
I’m still looking into what’s right for me. I’m with you guys on it not being the best connection point. What kind of speed were you carrying when you took the hit?My lower rad support got bent not from rock bashing but from a washed-out part of a trail that I didn’t notice in low-light. The nose of my car slammed into the ground.
Caveat: I had the shitty little debris shield when this happened, so I don’t know if the proper skid plate would have distributed the force enough to keep the bar from bending
<20I’m still looking into what’s right for me. I’m with you guys on it not being the best connection point. What kind of speed were you carrying when you took the hit?
That makes me wonder if simply bolting a straight piece of heavy gauge steel from tow point to tow point would protect from specifically that type of impact (i.e., not relying on skid plates for that kind of impact). If it wasn’t dark outside, I’d go climb under my LC and start mentally designing…My lower rad support got bent not from rock bashing but from a washed-out part of a trail that I didn’t notice in low-light. The nose of my car slammed into the ground.
Caveat: I had the shitty little debris shield when this happened, so I don’t know if the proper skid plate would have distributed the force enough to keep the bar from bending
I actually got a quote to do this at a mod shop but they never got back to me… guess I’ll just be more careful!That makes me wonder if simply bolting a straight piece of heavy gauge steel from tow point to tow point would protect from specifically that type of impact (i.e., not relying on skid plates for that kind of impact). If it wasn’t dark outside, I’d go climb under my LC and start mentally designing…
Something like this: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...llow-3587263?store=1953&gStoreCode=1953&gQT=1
Maybe? But any hit to the sloped skid plate behind it is still going to yank on or press on the radiator mount.That makes me wonder if simply bolting a straight piece of heavy gauge steel from tow point to tow point would protect from specifically that type of impact (i.e., not relying on skid plates for that kind of impact). If it wasn’t dark outside, I’d go climb under my LC and start mentally designing…
Something like this: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/national-hardware-4062bc-3-in-x-36-in-solid-flat-1-8-in-plain-steel-yellow-3587263?store=1953&gStoreCode=1953&gQT=
DV8 (once they are available) and Victory 4x4 are the only two I know of that attach to the recovery points. Are there any others?DV8 Front, Belly, and LCA skids.
Belly available now, and other 2 very soon.
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Dang.. I wish they had a oil drain hatch and maybe one for the filter .. oh well, guess I'll just take them on and off every oil changeI just put Victory 4x4 engine and transmission skids on tonight. I have the transfer case skid on order. Very well made and I got the Aluminum option as I wanted to save some weight. They are well made and I’m very happy with them. Here is the trans skid next to the stock plastic “skid”.