Doug isn’t a fan of our baby
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From my experience actually works in a (smaller) automotive company as designer, theoretically configurations should go through a rigorous analysis researching the cost of each components and try to match the final configurations to a space that it can actually be sold. (BTW It cost me $100+K just to access the database of cost break-down for a sub-system from other competition)
However, this is just theory. In reality this process could get pretty arbitrary and sometimes it can be dictated by the preference of a few VP/SVP's personal opinion. The smaller you are the less process/protocol you need to follow. (Of course Toyota is not this case)
So the million dollar question here is, how much would you ask for your Toyota new car to sell it against Acura/Infiniti/BMW/Mercedes/Range Rover? and how much would you ask for your Lexus new car?
To configure the car is not rocky science. Everybody can do it as long as you have access to the information you need.
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So I take it you're not going to start your own car company?
Doug's videos are generally fairly entertaining and informative if you're just looking for a decent, high-level walkthrough of a vehicle.
I certainly don't always (or usually for that matter) agree with his tastes in aesthetics, but whatever, I'm not looking to trash his channel or content.
The thing is, that even after purchasing my LC, I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of the criticisms that a lot of the reviewers have made...they just happen to be about features or aspects of the vehicle that I personally am not concerned about given my own tastes or anticipated usage of the vehicle...but I do feel this review from Doug misses the mark more than most. While we could certainly argue about it until the cows come home, I do agree that the current Sequoia does fill the role that the previous Land Cruiser did in the general US market. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know...I personally don't want a Sequoia or a 300 series LC...I had actually planned on making a 4Runner my next major vehicle purchase up until not too long ago, but fell more in love with the styling of the new 250 Land Cruiser once it returned to the US market. If this guy thinks that the 4Runner looks cooler, that's his prerogative, and probably a lot of US buyers will agree, I'm just not one of them (and this is coming from a former 1st gen 4Runner owner who's always loved them).
What I do disagree with on this video specifically, is his criticism of the powertrain...I don't feel it's overworked or underwheling at all, I've actually been impressed with it. I also disagree with his "it's not a Land Cruiser" opinion...it's just not the same LC that had previously been available in the US...and as I mentioned above, I prefer this one.
I feel like there's room for the current LC and 4Runner to co-exist even if there are a lot of similarities
I certainly don't always (or usually for that matter) agree with his tastes in aesthetics, but whatever, I'm not looking to trash his channel or content.
The thing is, that even after purchasing my LC, I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of the criticisms that a lot of the reviewers have made...they just happen to be about features or aspects of the vehicle that I personally am not concerned about given my own tastes or anticipated usage of the vehicle...but I do feel this review from Doug misses the mark more than most. While we could certainly argue about it until the cows come home, I do agree that the current Sequoia does fill the role that the previous Land Cruiser did in the general US market. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know...I personally don't want a Sequoia or a 300 series LC...I had actually planned on making a 4Runner my next major vehicle purchase up until not too long ago, but fell more in love with the styling of the new 250 Land Cruiser once it returned to the US market. If this guy thinks that the 4Runner looks cooler, that's his prerogative, and probably a lot of US buyers will agree, I'm just not one of them (and this is coming from a former 1st gen 4Runner owner who's always loved them).
What I do disagree with on this video specifically, is his criticism of the powertrain...I don't feel it's overworked or underwheling at all, I've actually been impressed with it. I also disagree with his "it's not a Land Cruiser" opinion...it's just not the same LC that had previously been available in the US...and as I mentioned above, I prefer this one.
I feel like there's room for the current LC and 4Runner to co-exist even if there are a lot of similarities
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Well said
Why do I need to start a car company when I already played these tedious politics game for car configurations for years? People pretend it is a technical problem while even the decision makers of these configurations are just xxx-kissers?
Today you can feed these databases into LLM and they can do better job than all these expensive labor can do, all without non-sense biases, argument and presentations.
Most of these car reviews get watched as an afterthought anyway. We like to see approval from the YouTubers but most of them are just in it for content creation.
Really the only approval you need is your own since you’re the one driving the thing anyway.
YouTubers like thinkerers adventure and car care nut present actual useful technical info if you care for meaningful education.
Really the only approval you need is your own since you’re the one driving the thing anyway.
YouTubers like thinkerers adventure and car care nut present actual useful technical info if you care for meaningful education.
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I just thought with all your Insite you would do well starting your own company so you could offer all the features you've mentioned in various posts.
I understand every single word you use but you lose me when you assemble these words into a sentence. Are these sentences supposed to mean anything?
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YesI understand every single word you use but you lose me when you assemble these words into a sentence. Are these sentences supposed to mean anything?
I don't care what just another lame influencer has to say ever. What an artificial economy that is.
Let’s drop this thread. I’m personally tired of seeing more posts on this douchebag. 
Annoying yet mentions the elephant in the room. More like FJ cruiser, very underpowered, yet sleek retro styling. To me it is a restomod with warranty, just wish it had the old 2.7 naturally aspirated four with a manual tranny, that actually has some power and responsiveness and does not need a hybrid to mask turbo lag. Honestly am puzzled why all this complexity, and still drives like a dog… (in spite of fantastic power promises in the brochure)
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Island Time,
We get it: you’re not happy with your purchase.
Good news is that retained value is probably pretty high. Trade it off or sell it and get the BMW SUV that better meets your desires for a performance oriented station wagon with a lift kit.
Bitching about it on here will not make the LC an on road performance vehicle. Your problem can readily be solved by getting something else.
We get it: you’re not happy with your purchase.
Good news is that retained value is probably pretty high. Trade it off or sell it and get the BMW SUV that better meets your desires for a performance oriented station wagon with a lift kit.
Bitching about it on here will not make the LC an on road performance vehicle. Your problem can readily be solved by getting something else.
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calgon take me away……
It drives like a sports car if you now how to drive it.
Maybe things are different in Canadia. Helps to buy the performance goodies as well or change a few things.
If you think LLM.s are free of bias you’re in for some disappointment.
A little bit out of original subject, but just a quick comment on this.
LLM is as good as the data you fed to it. A few today already provide tools to allow you to train it with your own proprietary data. So that's it.
In many ways it's like how you want to teach you kids, if you teach it well, it will learn well and reason on future data well, and vice versa.
With the public model like O1, I find it reason on the data you fed to it quite well, even if I have no idea how they trained it. You have no idea how many idiotic opinions and reasoning you can heard from within an automotive company. The politics, lack of expertise, and incompetent reasoning are everywhere. It is a relatively simple math of profit optimization problem for your own brand.
Free enterprise, mo money mo money. Nothing changes.
The true foundation of the US,,,,, we want to keep more for ourselves the rest is window dressing.
And thats ok. Those that get it, get some. Those that don't get none.
It's just the way things work for a good long time yet.
The true foundation of the US,,,,, we want to keep more for ourselves the rest is window dressing.
And thats ok. Those that get it, get some. Those that don't get none.
It's just the way things work for a good long time yet.
