Anyone else looking at the new '26 Passport?

For most SUV buyers this is a legitimate question. I also checked out the Passport and the Pilot. Besides the obvious chassis differences for off road use there are some solid reasons to go LC over Passport/Pilot or vice versa, that a non-enthusiast might not be aware of.

I found the hard plastics, smaller dash view, anemic infotainment, lack of 360 view on the 1958 to be a deal breaker. That placed me in the $65k plus range on the LC platform. Win for the $15k less expensive Honda. However, even if you aren't planning to go offroad, the LC is built for longer service life than the Passport. I've owned several Hondas with the V6 and around 150k miles the Hondas get expensive to own. VCM issues (and I know supposedly with 2019+ that has been resolved), control arms, motor mounts, etc. Everything is packed in tighter (more efficiently?) on a Honda. The LC is built for a 250k mile service life whereas the Passport/Pilot is probably closer to 150k. And even if not an official number that's when you'll want to think about replacing. Styling inside and out, I far prefer the LC. Though the third row option in the Pilot and Highlander (and the interior space!) are really hard to ignore. The third row in the Pilot and Grand Highlander is usable, unlike that in the GX 550.

If you plan to drive beyond fire roads, LC is the one. But for many non-offroad buyers, if you aren't keeping your vehicle beyond 10 years/150k miles, you'll get better value and drive-ability on roads with a Passport or Pilot, at lower cost and less wind noise. If you think you may keep your vehicle 10 to 20 years, go LC.

Of course, vehicle preferences are usually not logical and you just buy what fits your personality. If I could have talked myself out of the LC I'd have saved some money on the Pilot! I didn't need an off road capable vehicle but now that I have one I have explored a few trails I would not take a Passport on. I also like not worrying about running over curbs at Costco.
 
I have never been a Honda fan, something about their cars has just never excited me, I have a neighbor who is a massive Honda guy and spends beaucoup bucks "ricing" out his older Honda Civic, I just do not understand it.

I have only heard one 4cyl in my life that sounded good and it was the Fiat 124 Spyder Abarth (Italians know how to tune exhausts), but beyond that, 4cyls ime do not sound good and Honda's sound terrible.

I know that the Passport is not in that same category and yes it is has a 6, but I do not understand the attraction to CUVs nor Honda as a brand.
 
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Agree with the sentiments here that the new Honda Passport is NOT really a competitor of the LC, at least in terms of capabilities, but I'm sure they'll be cross-shopped by quite a few folks...

No, It's not a body-on-frame vehicle, but it looks more like a rugged BOF vehicle than the current Highlander or Grand Highlander (both of which would be better Toyota unibody analogs), so I can definitely understand the appeal in that regard, and get why that's likely why it will still be compared to the LC and 4Runners out there, particularly by those without ambitions to do much serious off-roading, but still want something that looks like it could.

I like the overall looks of the new Passport in general, though not crazy about the large "PASSPORT" lettering on the back, but that seems to be a new trend with a lot of SUVs and trucks these days...I'm just glad the LC went for more subtle styling in that regard.
 
Agree with the sentiments here that the new Honda Passport is NOT really a competitor of the LC, at least in terms of capabilities, but I'm sure they'll be cross-shopped by quite a few folks...

No, It's not a body-on-frame vehicle, but it looks more like a rugged BOF vehicle than the current Highlander or Grand Highlander (both of which would be better Toyota unibody analogs), so I can definitely understand the appeal in that regard, and get why that's likely why it will still be compared to the LC and 4Runners out there, particularly by those without ambitions to do much serious off-roading, but still want something that looks like it could.

I like the overall looks of the new Passport in general, though not crazy about the large "PASSPORT" lettering on the back, but that seems to be a new trend with a lot of SUVs and trucks these days...I'm just glad the LC went for more subtle styling in that regard.
I think this might be a case of trying to fill different niches. Highlander/GH are people movers and not meant to be softroaders. The passport was marketed as a 4Runner competitor from the beginning which in my eyes is a stretch as they’re completely different vehicles. Toyota has BOF trucks and so I don’t think they really need to do what Honda is trying to do here.

One big difference as well is where these vehicles were designed and are built. Honda’s Odyssey/Ridgeline/Passport were designed in the US and are made in Alabama. LC/4R/Tacoma/etc have most of their underpinnings designed in Japan and at least the LC/4R are made in Japan. I much prefer the latter.
 
Like nearly every other SUV on the market today, the Honda is a modern-day station wagon. It's a nice car and the AWD makes it capable of light off road use. Probably fine for most people who prioritize on-road comfort. But it's not comparable to the LC.
 
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In general, Honda vehicles are outstanding. Checkout the CRV hybrid if you want 40MPG or the Acura MDX if you want style and performance. They also arguably have the best AWD system for onroad and softroading. The new 2026 Pilot Trail Sport should do very well.

So far, they have stopped short of body on frame trucks with lockers and disconnectable sway bars etc.

If they merge with Nissan and cross that Rubicon then perhaps Toyota will have some real competition.
 
In general, Honda vehicles are outstanding. Checkout the CRV hybrid if you want 40MPG or the Acura MDX if you want style and performance. They also arguably have the best AWD system for onroad and softroading. The new 2026 Pilot Trail Sport should do very well.

So far, they have stopped short of body on frame trucks with lockers and disconnectable sway bars etc.

If they merge with Nissan and cross that Rubicon then perhaps Toyota will have some real competition.

Looks like the Nissan merger is off, at least everything I've read says it is :(
 
At under 3000miles my 2023 Passport left me in the middle of nowhere NM and then had to have all the injectors replaced. That V6 has long standing issues with injectors. Despite being unibody it got no more mpg than my 1958.
 
At under 3000miles my 2023 Passport left me in the middle of nowhere NM and then had to have all the injectors replaced. That V6 has long standing issues with injectors. Despite being unibody it got no more mpg than my 1958.
Holy crap… we were in New Mexico as well when our 2019 passport crapped out. Close to monument valley iirc… Ours wasn’t due to injectors though… some genius had overfilled the transmission causing it to shut the engine and car down several times at highway speeds… one of the scariest things I’ve experienced… Honda covered the transmission drain and fill but didn’t do any further investigating and was such a pain to deal with thereafter regarding fit/finish issues. Also, Honda roadside assistance left us high and dry after saying they’d have a tow truck out to us. They called back an hour later saying it was closing time and that we were on our own. Worst roadside assistance experience ever… I literally called the first tow service I could find on Google maps(luckily I had service for a few minutes before reception crapped out) and they were on their way. Took another hour and a half. What a terrible experience.

Also, I’m pretty sure the J35 engine is single port GDI as well which means carbon build up. Don’t think they’ve changed the engine design much since 2019. Glad we got rid of ours at 30k miles. Wouldn’t want to deal with any other problems…
 
At under 3000miles my 2023 Passport left me in the middle of nowhere NM and then had to have all the injectors replaced. That V6 has long standing issues with injectors. Despite being unibody it got no more mpg than my 1958.
Oddly a friend had engine issues with his 2023 Pilot. Though his was leaking coolant, needing the head gaskets replaced. Who ever heard of that on a 2yo car. Dealer service was pretty bottom end too. I think he expected an equivalent experience to their old Sienna & didn’t quite find that.
 
Holy crap… we were in New Mexico as well when our 2019 passport crapped out. Close to monument valley iirc… Ours wasn’t due to injectors though… some genius had overfilled the transmission causing it to shut the engine and car down several times at highway speeds… one of the scariest things I’ve experienced… Honda covered the transmission drain and fill but didn’t do any further investigating and was such a pain to deal with thereafter regarding fit/finish issues. Also, Honda roadside assistance left us high and dry after saying they’d have a tow truck out to us. They called back an hour later saying it was closing time and that we were on our own. Worst roadside assistance experience ever… I literally called the first tow service I could find on Google maps(luckily I had service for a few minutes before reception crapped out) and they were on their way. Took another hour and a half. What a terrible experience.

Also, I’m pretty sure the J35 engine is single port GDI as well which means carbon build up. Don’t think they’ve changed the engine design much since 2019. Glad we got rid of ours at 30k miles. Wouldn’t want to deal with any other problems…
We were at Carlsbad caverns. I was constantly on the phone to AAA after 8hrs. discovered they were dispatching a truck to Carlsbad CA. Went from bad to worse tow truck that eventually turned up had faulty lights . Drove as far as Artesia using my flashlight. Was picked up next morning (Sun.) and taken to dealer in Roswell. Dealer was excellent on Mon. morn. diagnosed problem, order injectors and as promised had us on road by 10am. Tues. When my Toyota dealer definitely had a low spec. 1958 coming I immediately sold them the Passport and waited the 3mths. for the 1958 to turn up. To add insult to injury we had sold my wife's 2007 V6 Accord after 175,000 trouble free miles to buy the Passport. Until then I would have cross shopped Honda with Toyota, never again.
 
We were at Carlsbad caverns. I was constantly on the phone to AAA after 8hrs. discovered they were dispatching a truck to Carlsbad CA. Went from bad to worse tow truck that eventually turned up had faulty lights . Drove as far as Artesia using my flashlight. Was picked up next morning (Sun.) and taken to dealer in Roswell. Dealer was excellent on Mon. morn. diagnosed problem, order injectors and as promised had us on road by 10am. Tues. When my Toyota dealer definitely had a low spec. 1958 coming I immediately sold them the Passport and waited the 3mths. for the 1958 to turn up. To add insult to injury we had sold my wife's 2007 V6 Accord after 175,000 trouble free miles to buy the Passport. Until then I would have cross shopped Honda with Toyota, never again.
We were fortunate that my sisters family was living 45 minutes or so away from where we broke down but when I initially called Honda roadside they said they would get someone dispatched to us. After an hour of waiting, they called back saying oh we can’t find any truck services and that they were closing for the day so we were on our own… I googled tow service, with the little cell service I had which was also excruciating btw as service was constantly dropping, and called the nearest one and got them to come get us. So much for not being able to find a tow service.

We ended up keeping the passport because Honda consumer affairs was such a pita to deal with(I would get into yelling matches with the guy assigned to us lol… and he would yell back at me) and wouldn’t budge on helping us with anything. We sold the car at the height of the used car price craze and ended up only losing a very small amount of money on what we paid. Bought an 05 4Runner V8 afterwards and I was super happy with it until I sold that for the 1958 recently.

Anyways… Honda customer service/consumer affairs was an absolute nightmare for us and I don’t think I will ever sign papers for another Honda again after that experience.
 
Kudos to these guys at Trial Milita Offroad who push the envelope on AWD systems for off roading. Two nice videos if you are interested comparing Honda and Ford AWD systems on some difficult terrain.

Can a Honda Ridgeline and Passport handle some real off-road terrain?​



Is the Bronco sport the best AWD vehicle on the market? We test it with a Honda Ridgeline​

 
Whatever Honda brands, they are always a family car. No chance to compete with 4runner, Bronco, Wrangler, etc.
 
Whatever Honda brands, they are always a family car. No chance to compete with 4runner, Bronco, Wrangler, etc.

Definitely not going to have the same Off-Road cred, but I'm glad they are at least giving it a shot. I love competition, and it makes everyone else hone their craft and the consumer ends up winning.
 
The passport is not a competitor to the Land Cruiser.
LC is LAND cruiser

Honda Passport is MC (Mall cruiser). It probably equal with LC which only used as MC.

This comment intends to get rock thrown 😜 😜
Hmmm I thought this is LC forum, isn’t it?
 
For most SUV buyers this is a legitimate question. I also checked out the Passport and the Pilot. Besides the obvious chassis differences for off road use there are some solid reasons to go LC over Passport/Pilot or vice versa, that a non-enthusiast might not be aware of.

I found the hard plastics, smaller dash view, anemic infotainment, lack of 360 view on the 1958 to be a deal breaker. That placed me in the $65k plus range on the LC platform. Win for the $15k less expensive Honda. However, even if you aren't planning to go offroad, the LC is built for longer service life than the Passport. I've owned several Hondas with the V6 and around 150k miles the Hondas get expensive to own. VCM issues (and I know supposedly with 2019+ that has been resolved), control arms, motor mounts, etc. Everything is packed in tighter (more efficiently?) on a Honda. The LC is built for a 250k mile service life whereas the Passport/Pilot is probably closer to 150k. And even if not an official number that's when you'll want to think about replacing. Styling inside and out, I far prefer the LC. Though the third row option in the Pilot and Highlander (and the interior space!) are really hard to ignore. The third row in the Pilot and Grand Highlander is usable, unlike that in the GX 550.

If you plan to drive beyond fire roads, LC is the one. But for many non-offroad buyers, if you aren't keeping your vehicle beyond 10 years/150k miles, you'll get better value and drive-ability on roads with a Passport or Pilot, at lower cost and less wind noise. If you think you may keep your vehicle 10 to 20 years, go LC.

Of course, vehicle preferences are usually not logical and you just buy what fits your personality. If I could have talked myself out of the LC I'd have saved some money on the Pilot! I didn't need an off road capable vehicle but now that I have one I have explored a few trails I would not take a Passport on. I also like not worrying about running over curbs at Costco.
Spot on. Just dumped our 2013 Pilot with 175k miles- catalytic converter starting to fail- likely due to VCM. Great car don’t get me wrong. We bought an LC because we keep cars forever.
 
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