2025 LC250 / 1958 - help me decide on tires?

[monikersupreme]

I'm planning to take delivery of my new Land Cruiser next week and am considering driving it straight in to Discount Tire to swap out the stock Yokohama 245s for a set of 275s.

I'm located in Central Texas and will admittedly be driving mostly city/highway the majority of the time, however, while I don't plan to do any heavy off road travel (rock crawling whatnot) I do primitive camp pretty regular (think gravel/dirt trails Big Bend-ish).

Also, after the last few years, I highly value being prepared for as many of the inclement conditions Texas likes to throw at us (cough cough snowpocalyse, anyone?) as possible...

So I'm considering the following:

NITTO TERRA GRAPPLER G3P 275 /70 R18 116T SL BSW: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

GENERAL GRABBER A/TX P 275 /70 R18 116S SL BSW: https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/general-grabber-a-tx

BFGOODRICH ALL TERRAIN T/A KO3LT275 /70 R18 125S E1 RWL: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

YOKOHAMA GEOLANDAR H/T G056 LT275 /70 R18 125R E1 OWL: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

I'm told the LC250/1958 should comfortably fit a 275/70 R18 spare.

All of the above are close enough in price where I don't think the $$ difference will be an issue; I'm also open to other suggestions. I'm honestly rather new to the truck/tire scene (driven the same Subie for 15+ years) so any insight/advice would be much appreciated!!

 

[ycart1201]

If mpg is a concern, stick with the SL. The E rated will most likely be much heavier causing worse mpg.

 

[monikersupreme]

If mpg is a concern, stick with the SL. The E rated will most likely be much heavier causing worse mpg.

I'm actually somewhat confused about that - is an SL A/T tire more fuel efficient than an E1 H/T?

The Treadwell tire ratings (on the Discount listing) have them both 3.5 for fuel efficiency?

 

[KurtW]

I have the Terra Grapplers and am very happy with them. No additional road noise, and for me they provide a good balance of traction across all my use cases.

 

[D-mac]

I'm actually somewhat confused about that - is an SL A/T tire more fuel efficient than an E1 H/T?

The Treadwell tire ratings (on the Discount listing) have them both 3.5 for fuel efficiency?

The kicker is that for an SL tire you'll probably have to go with a 275/65 or 265/70 size. SL tires are usually a lot lighter since they have less tread and are thinner construction. This lower weight helps MPG. However an LT tire can make up mpg by running at higher psi than an SL tire if you don't mind a rougher ride.

 

[monikersupreme]

The kicker is that for an SL tire you'll probably have to go with a 275/65 or 265/70 size. SL tires are usually a lot lighter since they have less tread and are thinner construction. This lower weight helps MPG. However an LT tire can make up mpg by running at higher psi than an SL tire if you don't mind a rougher ride.

So if I were to get the:

NITTO TERRA GRAPPLER G3P 275 /70 R18 116T SL BSW: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

Would I need to inflate these above the recommended PSI?

 

[radmoonrising]

I went with BFG KO3s and love them so far. The KO2s have been around for over a decade. If it aint broke dont fix it but BFG made them even better. Super quiet, and great offroad in dirt and snow, I have not done much in the mud. 285/70-17s (which is what I went with, I know you are looking at other sizes) though only comes in an E rating with is fine with me to have 10ply side walls when airing down offroad but you take a hit with the weight. Regardless I love the tires though.

 

[monikersupreme]

So if I were to get the:

NITTO TERRA GRAPPLER G3P 275 /70 R18 116T SL BSW: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

Would I need to inflate these above the recommended PSI?

... and given that the 1958 comes with 245/70R18 will the wheel/rim fit a 275/70R18 SL?

 

[Dusty1]

... and given that the 1958 comes with 245/70R18 will the wheel/rim fit a 275/70R18 SL?

Yes, it will.

 

[monikersupreme]

I went with BFG KO3s and love them so far. The KO2s have been around for over a decade. If it aint broke dont fix it but BFG made them even better. Super quiet, and great offroad in dirt and snow, I have not done much in the mud. 285/70-17s (which is what I went with, I know you are looking at other sizes) though only comes in an E rating with is fine with me to have 10ply side walls when airing down offroad but you take a hit with the weight. Regardless I love the tires though.

The KO3s were actually recommended by a few other folks here as well.

I'd be looking at 275s but, out of curiosity, what kind of hit have you taken in terms of mpg?

 

[goforth]

I’m actually going with Cooper Rugged Trek

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Cooper&tireModel=Discoverer+Rugged+Trek&partnum=77QR8DRT&fromTireCompare=Y

 

[treadmark]

I’ve been using KO2s and the earlier version for my Jeeps and trucks. Due to their weight (including with the Load C ones I have on my Gladiator), the mileage took a significant hit. I plan on trying out the BFG Trail Terrains on my LC in the stock 265/70/18 size, since they are SL and as light as the Ridge Grapplers that came on mine. I don’t like the feel, traction, and sound of the Grapplers, and my hope is the Trail Terrains will be an overall improvement.

 

[D-mac]

So if I were to get the:

NITTO TERRA GRAPPLER G3P 275 /70 R18 116T SL BSW: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

Would I need to inflate these above the recommended PSI?

You’ll just have to experiment how rough of a ride you want, every driver has different preferences. To complicate things more some tires have noise reduction tech

 

[radmoonrising]

The KO3s were actually recommended by a few other folks here as well.

I'd be looking at 275s but, out of curiosity, what kind of hit have you taken in terms of mpg?

Honestly, it's hard to tell because I frequently pull our offroad trailer or have snowboards on the roof rack... both of which do not add to the overall MPG average. During and after the trip computers are saying 16-17s but the average has taken a hit because of pulling weight behind me.

 

[monikersupreme]

Does anyone know/have experience if fitting larger (275/70R18) tires risks of voiding any of the (comprehensive, drivetrain, etc) warranties - particularly if I decide to purchase a platinum extended warranty?

 

[D-mac]

Does anyone know/have experience if fitting larger (275/70R18) tires risks of voiding any of the (comprehensive, drivetrain, etc) warranties - particularly if I decide to purchase a platinum extended warranty?

Toyota would have to prove your selection of aftermarket tires was the cause of a failure if/when they deny a warranty claim- it's US law. If you want there to be zero possibility of anything ever being questioned, you'll have to choose a tire size that came OEM on your truck.

 

[goforth]

Cooper Rugged Trek, no lift:

 

[JRosdail]

I'm planning to take delivery of my new Land Cruiser next week and am considering driving it straight in to Discount Tire to swap out the stock Yokohama 245s for a set of 275s.

I'm located in Central Texas and will admittedly be driving mostly city/highway the majority of the time, however, while I don't plan to do any heavy off road travel (rock crawling whatnot) I do primitive camp pretty regular (think gravel/dirt trails Big Bend-ish).

Also, after the last few years, I highly value being prepared for as many of the inclement conditions Texas likes to throw at us (cough cough snowpocalyse, anyone?) as possible...

So I'm considering the following:

NITTO TERRA GRAPPLER G3P 275 /70 R18 116T SL BSW: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

GENERAL GRABBER A/TX P 275 /70 R18 116S SL BSW: https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/general-grabber-a-tx

BFGOODRICH ALL TERRAIN T/A KO3LT275 /70 R18 125S E1 RWL: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

YOKOHAMA GEOLANDAR H/T G056 LT275 /70 R18 125R E1 OWL: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

I'm told the LC250/1958 should comfortably fit a 275/70 R18 spare.

All of the above are close enough in price where I don't think the $$ difference will be an issue; I'm also open to other suggestions. I'm honestly rather new to the truck/tire scene (driven the same Subie for 15+ years) so any insight/advice would be much appreciated!!

Just changed mine to Cooper

I'm planning to take delivery of my new Land Cruiser next week and am considering driving it straight in to Discount Tire to swap out the stock Yokohama 245s for a set of 275s.

I'm located in Central Texas and will admittedly be driving mostly city/highway the majority of the time, however, while I don't plan to do any heavy off road travel (rock crawling whatnot) I do primitive camp pretty regular (think gravel/dirt trails Big Bend-ish).

Also, after the last few years, I highly value being prepared for as many of the inclement conditions Texas likes to throw at us (cough cough snowpocalyse, anyone?) as possible...

So I'm considering the following:

NITTO TERRA GRAPPLER G3P 275 /70 R18 116T SL BSW: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

GENERAL GRABBER A/TX P 275 /70 R18 116S SL BSW: https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/general-grabber-a-tx

BFGOODRICH ALL TERRAIN T/A KO3LT275 /70 R18 125S E1 RWL: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

YOKOHAMA GEOLANDAR H/T G056 LT275 /70 R18 125R E1 OWL: Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

I'm told the LC250/1958 should comfortably fit a 275/70 R18 spare.

All of the above are close enough in price where I don't think the $$ difference will be an issue; I'm also open to other suggestions. I'm honestly rather new to the truck/tire scene (driven the same Subie for 15+ years) so any insight/advice would be much appreciated!!

I just changed mine to Cooper discoverer Road + Trail ATs in 265 70r18. Since this is a standard size offering on other models I will minimize the speedo error and they only weigh a couple pounds more than the factory tires. Some are MUCH heavier and increased rotational weight is an MPG killer. The tire ratings have been excellent by Americas Tire and Tire rack. Great road noise reports and good looking too. Just got them a week ago but I think they hit the sweet spot for me.

 

[monikersupreme]

Just changed mine to Cooper

I just changed mine to Cooper discoverer Road + Trail ATs in 265 70r18. Since this is a standard size offering on other models I will minimize the speedo error and they only weigh a couple pounds more than the factory tires. Some are MUCH heavier and increased rotational weight is an MPG killer. The tire ratings have been excellent by Americas Tire and Tire rack. Great road noise reports and good looking too. Just got them a week ago but I think they hit the sweet spot for me.

I ended up with the Nitto Terra Grappler G3s SL 275/70r18s:

Visual Comparison (2025 LC250/1958): Stock Yokohama 245s vs Nitto 275s

Took delivery of my new 2025 LC250/1958 today and drove it straight to Discount Tire to swap out the stock Yokohama 245s for a new set of Nitto Terra Grappler G3s (275/70r18 SL) and figured some before & after pics might help those considering a similar such swap. (see comments below for before...

www.landcruiserforum.com

 

[axmoicer F]

Does anyone know/have experience if fitting larger (275/70R18) tires risks of voiding any of the (comprehensive, drivetrain, etc) warranties - particularly if I decide to purchase a platinum extended warranty?

I had several tire installers refuse to upsize from stock citing warranty/safety. This caught me off guard because I always thought staying within 3% change in OD was generally considered ok and I was only asking for a 1.5% change. I called my Toyota dealer to inquire and they said bring it in, we'll put them on no problem.