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    2025 4Runner tease

    I really prefer the Land Cruiser interior over the Tacoma interior. Even the 1958 with the small screen is preferable to the very chunky shape of the Tacoma interior. That said, it will come down to pricing and content. There is something very charming about the 1958 that feels very old...
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    Land Cruiser makes appearance at 2024 New York Auto Show

    Saw it on Friday night. Pretty sure that the 1958 with upgraded wheels and tires will be my jam if I decide on LC over 4Runner. I thought I would be put off by the small screen, but it is fine. Loved the cloth interior. (Both viewed through the window, haha).
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    Possible 2024 land cruiser performance figures.

    There's a difference in overreporting numbers and validating numbers with the incorrect process. For example, a manufacturing plant might have 4 different sets of engine software when they performance or durability test their engines. This isn't the official certification of the engine; this...
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    Put the best in it that you can and avoid giving it the beans.
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    Tacoma Fail on TFL. This is concerning.

    I appreciate your service so I didn't have the click and watch. :) I hate that the modern way of answering a question is to make a 10 minute video.
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    Stock Wheels - offset and bolt pattern?

    Can’t go wrong with TE37s. I put a forged Apex VS-5RS on my GRC.
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    Stock Wheels - offset and bolt pattern?

    I call that the OEM effect. Aftermarket forged wheels really push the envelope, but think Toyota still errs on the side of caution for OEM. Also, hello fellow GR Corolla and 4Runner owner. :)
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    Just a little update from the Hawaii

    That battery plant is still under construction. I don't think it is due to build the first production parts until 2025. The batteries out of the US battery plant will go to North America built vehicles. It really eats into the localization cost benefits if they build batteries in the US, ship...
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    It does have the caveat of "for optimum engine performance and fuel economy". I'm not a lawyer. I am an engineer, though. To me, that says that the engine performance and fuel economy will be better if premium is used. It isn't saying that you will or will not damage your engine by using 87...
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    Side by Side Specs to the 4Runner

    I know that now. When I made the post, the assumption was regular because Tacoma hybrid shows regular at this point.
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    I mean, I paid my house off at 39 and I’m on track to semi-retire at 48. I’d estimate that I live below my means as well. It’s just part of the decision making matrix and considering total cost of ownership. Not saying I wouldn’t buy due to premium requirement, but I’ll ponder it a lot more...
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    I don't think it is a deal breaker in that people can't afford them. It's just paying attention to what things cost. Premium fuel is one of those death by 1000 cuts thing. Drive 100k miles and that is $2600. Invested that is $3600 over 7 years. Ton of money? Nope. But not nothing. If...
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    That’s why I said it is up to each owner’s risk tolerance.
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    The engines are, for most purposes, the same, but the software can be different between the two. It would be nice if Toyota came out and said that you could use 87 but the vehicle will only make X power. I haven't seen Toyota do that on an individual model in a long time, though. They...
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    Stock Wheels - offset and bolt pattern?

    I think that you'd get pretty severe rubbing at full lock and full tuck adding that much poke.
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    Stock Wheels - offset and bolt pattern?

    Yea, I would take this as 60mm positive offset from the centerline. I used the same willtheyfit site when I came to my conclusions that previous generation wheels will probably not be a good fit on these trucks. Tundra Pro comes with a 18x8.5 w/ ET47 and 285/65-18 that would probably fit...
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    Side by Side Specs to the 4Runner

    Looks like some official things are dropping on the Land Cruiser as far as operation. The starter on the Land Cruiser is only for backup... basically there to help start in cold areas. I don't see anything about a required change interval, but I haven't dug deep into the maintenance schedule...
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    Stock Wheels - offset and bolt pattern?

    18x7.5" are 6x139.7mm(5.5") with a 60mm inset. 18x7" are 6x139.7mm(5.5") with a 70mm inset. Those are surprisingly high offset wheels. The Tacoma Pro, for example, is like 30mm offset. Looks like the '24 Tacoma TRD OR wheels and tires will be a great OEM+ bolt-on for the 1958. They are...
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    Tacoma Fail on TFL. This is concerning.

    Anyone have cliff's notes on what happened? I try to avoid giving youtubers clicks for clickbait titles on principle.
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    Let's guess CURB WEIGHT... GX550 has been leaked...

    5350-5500 lbs. Depends on the spec, but that's the basic range.
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    I tolerate premium on performance vehicles. My beef isn't so much the cost increase but the lack of transparency on pricing. Regular is posted big and clear at every gas station. Premium can be as little as $0.40/gal cost up or as much as $0.90/gal cost up over regular and it wildly varies in...
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    Came here to post the same thing. Very disappointing that it requires premium. I'm going to be considerably less likely to go Land Cruiser over 4Runner now... especially if 4Runner hybrid goes on regular.
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    Side by Side Specs to the 4Runner

    Ok, yea, non hybrid 4Runner will be a lot closer to Land Cruiser in MPG than GX is. It will come down to price and how it drives for me. I really like the effortless locomotion of the hybrids. If it drives that much better, I’ll pay the premium.
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    Side by Side Specs to the 4Runner

    The GX is 19mpg highway on premium while the Land Cruiser is 25mpg highway on (presumably) regular. Combined is 17mpg versus 23mpg. We’re talking over 30% improvement. That’s a massive difference. Fuel savings each year will be around $800-1000/yr depending on fuel costs in your area. That’s not...
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    Side by Side Specs to the 4Runner

    IMO, I'd wait to see one in person and not rely too much on specs. There are different ways to measure the same thing and Toyota isn't even very consistent across their own models. For example, the GR 86 supposedly has as much rear legroom as my GR Corolla. Both are listed at 29.9in. I owned...
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    2024 Land Cruiser require Premium Fuel?

    Is that Canada? Those MPG ratings don’t match up with US.
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    2024+ LC Production Updates (USA/Canada)

    I hadn't dug into that before. My excel loving engineering brain absolutely loves that presentation.
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    How much will the 2025 Land Cruiser tow?

    Because Europeans have a different method of determining tow ratings. Going a little deeper, Americans can't help but to push the limit, so the testing is significantly more severe. If the limit is 6000lbs, Americans expect that the vehicle can do 80mph fully loaded. European users seem to...
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    2024+ LC Production Updates (USA/Canada)

    Not all the boats land on the west coast. Toyota has several ports on the east coast that I'm aware of (and probably a few in the gulf coast).
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    2024+ LC Production Updates (USA/Canada)

    Watch the Toyota Inventory site. Those will populate that site way before they are due to hit the dealership. Toyota Inventory | New Toyota Inventory Search Depending on your relationship with Advantage, they may or may not be willing to quickly reach out to you. If you watch that site and...
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