The 1958

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2025 Toyota Land Cruiser 1958
I think it's crazy that I ended up buying this model and trim. At some point, I didn't even care for the new Land Cruiser. I originally fell in love with it (the "NEW" Land Cruiser), but then found the GX550 - at which point I stopped seeing value in the LC overall.

As I have stated in several posts, I had an allocation 1 month away from getting a GX550 Overtrail in Sand with the black roof. This one came with rock sliders and the roof rack - it was perfect.
However, the price was $76,000 and the dealer added $5,000 of protection/mark-up BS, for a total of $81,000 OTD.
It wasn't that I couldn't afford the $81K, it was that at that point I wouldn't feel like I couldn't use the vehicle as I wanted. Coming from a Mercedes SUV I wanted to get back to basics, I envied the people on the road with their 10-15 year old 4Runner, LC, or even Highlander - utilitarian, smart. Driving a luxury SUV just wasn't fun for me anymore.

I have also been into mechanical watches for a long time (before everyone started wearing a sub or a SMP300), acoustic guitars, motorcycles, etc. The whole consumerism prism. I understand it, and I don't like it. I've been able to escape it, selling all of my Martin guitars except for 1, and all of my watches except for 1.

What I learned, is that you always build a relationship with the item/object/etc. that you use the most carelessly and purposefully. The value you get from something comes from how you use it. Will it weight on you if it's dirty and scuffed?
Like that pair of old Red Wing Iron Rangers leather boots you've had for over a decade. Originally around $300, at first, these never saw foul weather. Now, these have become your work boots. But you can wear them out to dinner too. They provide value, utility, and now, sentimental value.

I ended up cancelling the GX550 Overtrail reservation, I was convinced this was my dream SUV, it still might be. V6 Twin Turbo is hard to beat, and the styling is perfect in my opinion. But it wasn't what I needed, and realizing that made me happy, I don't live in a dream.
I even had Carmax ship a 2022 GX460 down from Washington for me to look at. I was also looking at used 4Runners. I was torn because I wanted to make the right choice.

But then the Land Cruiser popped back into my mind. With PTSD from the Rolex AD with allocations and what not, I hesitated to even entertain looking at these again (I had gotten very lucky with the Lexus GX allocation). I originally wanted a Land Cruiser mid-level trim without the premium package but I this was too close to a GX550 to justify. So I took a good look at the 1958.

When I first looked at the 1958, before the GX entered the equation, I didn't even want to learn about this trim level - I didn't like the look, but I loved the cloth seats. But the look wasn't there for me. I was also infatuated with the LC trim and its looks.

With Swiss watches, there is a common cycle people experience. When you first start getting into watches, Rolex is "king" - you don't know any better. Then you start learning about Omega's accomplishments, and higher end watches like Patek, AP, ALS, etc. and think you know watches. You start to discount Rolex because "its what posers wear", or "its what people who want to show off wear", etc., etc..
But then years later you start to understand why Rolex is so popular.

Rolex watches started out as tool watches, just like your old Land Cruisers. Back then, these were tools to fulfill a purpose. The Rolex watch was used by explorers in harsh environments, divers, pilots, and race car drivers. Land Cruisers were used by farmers, and in my personal experience, by families in Colombia to reach our "fincas" (weekend home / country house) out in the muddy mountains.
This is what I have learned works for me. Simple and useful. I will simply get a lot more value from something that I will actually use as intended.

After my short "trip" from originally wanting the mid-level LC, to a GX550 Overtrail, to some used alternatives, and back to the Land Cruiser, I was ready to learn and understand the 1958 model.

I hesitate to write about what I like about the 1958 to avoid sounding like a justification to myself in this here fine forum, but it's true.

Today I came back from a 5 hour trip around Mt. Hood, from highway driving (75MPH), to winding mountain roads (55MPH), to ice/snow covered roads up to the Timberline Lodge, to muddy and rocky forest roads with my dog and GF in the truck. I didn't miss a thing. I never once wished I had more. As a matter of fact I wondered what it would've been like to be in the GX550 when the semi-truck sprayed road particles all over the hood and windshield of my 1958. I had HVAC for my dog in the back. I had heated seats and a heated steering wheel. I had adaptive cruise control. I got 21 MPG on a round trip with lots of stop/go, and off road driving. My cloth seats are excellent and I never wished for extra lumbar support, or thigh support like I had in my Mercedes.

Sure I had wind noise. But never did I miss a disconnecting sway bar, sunroof, Cool Box, or MTS. I actually don't like the squared headlights on the mid-level trim now (if I'm being 100% honest). I love the black plastic and can only imagine how it will look with all the miles and rock chips I will run this 1958 through. Not once did I wish I had more information on my dashboard, nor did I notice the size of my screen. The speakers did a great job. And I will say it again, those cloth seats are so comfortable and SO cool. I also didn't adjust my seat at all, and haven't since I bought it.

I feel lucky to have ended up with the 1958 model. It feels like I belong to a secret club of those who have experienced it and daily drive it. I have always been one to get the top trim level, with every option I "need". But the only vehicles I really regret selling are those that never had any of those features: 2009 Tacoma TRD and 2014 Jeep Sport.
This 1958

I saved thousands of dollars by going with this trim, $20,000 from the GX550 OT, and I can honestly say that I would pick this trim level again if I had to.
To me, this is the closest interpretation of a "modern" 80s series Land Cruiser. The 2025 Toyota Wagon.


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Very well-written.

As a watch enthusiast as well, I agree with your analogy to Rolex.

I would add the 1958 could be akin to Tudor. Tudor has become today what Hans Wildorf originally designed for Rolex....a workhorse watch that is subtle and will stand the test of time. Now Rolex has become either loved or hated by many people and frequently suffers from the reputation of a flashy / in-your-face / conspicuous piece of jewelry that people who want to appear wealthy.

Rolex and Tudor both make tool style watches which fly under the radar. However, many have become very ostentatious.

However, the fact remains Rolex and Tudor arguably make the finest, most durable, most reliable watches on the market.
 
Very well-written.

As a watch enthusiast as well, I agree with your analogy to Rolex.

I would add the 1958 could be akin to Tudor. Tudor has become today what Hans Wildorf originally designed for Rolex....a workhorse watch that is subtle and will stand the test of time. Now Rolex has become either loved or hated by many people and frequently suffers from the reputation of a flashy / in-your-face / conspicuous piece of jewelry that people who want to appear wealthy.

Rolex and Tudor both make tool style watches which fly under the radar. However, many have become very ostentatious.

However, the fact remains Rolex and Tudor arguably make the finest, most durable, most reliable watches on the market.
Spot on.
My purpose wasn't to compare the model/trim to Rolex, I wanted to share the experience of learning with other purchases that less is more, at least for me.

I also find it interesting that people assume that Toyota made a "cheap" version of the Land Cruiser, I think that is a huge misunderstanding of the model. Like you mentioned, Tudor, a $5,000 Swiss made watch is not a "poor man's Rolex" by any means, yet Tudor is the "cheaper" of the options.

Same with the Land Cruiser, $60,000 for a "bare bones" SUV is insane, until you understand the purpose behind it. It's hard to convey, but I think I missed my point to say that I feel that the 1958 is what Toyota would've built if the market wasn't so oversaturated with gizmos and features.
 
Great write up.
If i could get the GX off road version id cancel the Cruiser right now.
Just can't get them down here for the time being.
Ill enjoy the Cruiser and see how that goes for a while.
Enjoy your great new vehicle.
 
Looks good. Where’s the wrist shot on the steering wheel??? Lol
This isn't me, by the way. All of my Rolex watch/steering wheel pictures also clearly show my Gucci loafers.

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Well written. I came from a fully loaded 2024 GMC Denali Ultimate which had all the bells and whistles but I never used half of it. I missed simplicity just like my 1986 Toyota pickup.. I958 trim was the perfect choice for me to start.. Now I can make it my own through the coming years..
 
I also read somewhere on here that the 1958 is a limited edition, can anyone confirm or deny?
 
I also read somewhere on here that the 1958 is a limited edition, can anyone confirm or deny?
I believe you're thinking of the 1958 First Edition which is limited to 5k units for 2024.. But I do not believe that the 1958 base trim is limited..
 
I don’t think the FE was called the “1958 FE” (perhaps the shared round headlights caused some confusion). But yes, the FE is no longer offered for 2025, leaving just the 1958 and Land Cruiser trims.

It has seemed that Toyota over-estimated demand for the 1958 trim level. Thus, we’ll see if it is eventually phased out. Traditionally in the US, we’ve only had one trim level of the LC. The Heritage Edition offered briefly at the end of the 200 series life was a bit unusual.
 
I also read somewhere on here that the 1958 is a limited edition, can anyone confirm or deny?
When I did insurance before pickup, the vin showed it as “Limited First Edition/Base”. I asked the dealer then at pickup and they confirmed that the 1958 is a limited edition. The dealer said they are not sure how long it will be made for, but probably 2-3 model years. The dealer told me it will only be Land Cruiser with packages and occasional special editions in the future. Now is this subject to change, probably. I suspect Toyota is going to watch how the 6th gen 4Runner sells and if it people go for that or the 1958 given the price overlap, especially given a 1958 is cheaper than the Off-Road hybrid premium. I for one would take the 1958 over any of the 6th gen 4Runner models, they are ugly over styled. Only thing I would change on the 1958, especially at the price, is I wish it had the bigger screen, mostly for aesthetics versus the piano black surround. I do know the 1958’s are sitting though, and have even seen some in rental car inventory, so will probably be killed off.
 
The 1958 is a bit of a unique trim, being a base model yet equipped with the locking rear differential. I could see it getting discontinued or replaced with a true base model like in other markets.
 
I don’t think the FE was called the “1958 FE” (perhaps the shared round headlights caused some confusion). But yes, the FE is no longer offered for 2025, leaving just the 1958 and Land Cruiser trims.

It has seemed that Toyota over-estimated demand for the 1958 trim level. Thus, we’ll see if it is eventually phased out. Traditionally in the US, we’ve only had one trim level of the LC. The Heritage Edition offered briefly at the end of the 200 series life was a bit unusual.

I don't think it will go away. The way CAFE regulations and fuel economy standards work, the small, skinny tires on the 1958 allow Toyota to list the official CAFE fuel economy a little higher than it would be if they didn't have the 1958. I could see them changing up some things regarding spec that don't change fuel economy (adding SDM as an option, the bigger center screen), but I expect that there will be a little wheel version going forward.
 
Very similar journey for me coming from a Porsche Macan GTS. I had contemplated a 2025 4RunnerTRD Off-Road i-FORCE MAX or a Landcruiser. Within the Landcruiser I was going back and forth between the Landcruiser edition without the premium package or the 1958. I really liked the Trail Dust color though Meteor Shower was a close second.

Oddly I wound up with a First Edition through no fault of my own, because they offered nearly 5K off.

Congratulations on your purchase!
 
I don't think it will go away. The way CAFE regulations and fuel economy standards work, the small, skinny tires on the 1958 allow Toyota to list the official CAFE fuel economy a little higher than it would be if they didn't have the 1958. I could see them changing up some things regarding spec that don't change fuel economy (adding SDM as an option, the bigger center screen), but I expect that there will be a little wheel version going forward.
What I initially thought they’d do is drop the 1958 and adopt a true base model like most of the rest of the world gets, maybe a little more upscale for the US. The rest of the world gets rectangle reflector headlights, no rear spoiler, no tinted glass, some markets get steelies, rear locker could be dropped, and heated folding mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated seats, and camera washer are all features that typically aren’t on base models that are on the 1958 and could be dropped. But the problem with this is it would mean Toyota would need to drop the base price and it would not make sense at all next to the 4Runner price point and features, it would also devalue the Land Cruiser name. I think Toyota will drop the 1958 after 2026 MY and just maintain the current LC and premium package option as it makes more sense next to the 4Runner in their US lineup. I also think they’ll do another special edition for 2026 MY with round headlights (loaded top model and factory lift). I think Toyota is going to look at not ruining the LC nameplate in the US by bringing a truly base model - which is why I think they did the 1958, which is really well equipped.
 
I don't think it will go away. The way CAFE regulations and fuel economy standards work, the small, skinny tires on the 1958 allow Toyota to list the official CAFE fuel economy a little higher than it would be if they didn't have the 1958. I could see them changing up some things regarding spec that don't change fuel economy (adding SDM as an option, the bigger center screen), but I expect that there will be a little wheel version going forward.

What I initially thought they’d do is drop the 1958 and adopt a true base model like most of the rest of the world gets, maybe a little more upscale for the US. The rest of the world gets rectangle reflector headlights, no rear spoiler, no tinted glass, some markets get steelies, rear locker could be dropped, and heated folding mirrors, heated steering wheel, heated seats, and camera washer are all features that typically aren’t on base models that are on the 1958 and could be dropped. But the problem with this is it would mean Toyota would need to drop the base price and it would not make sense at all next to the 4Runner price point and features, it would also devalue the Land Cruiser name. I think Toyota will drop the 1958 after 2026 MY and just maintain the current LC and premium package option as it makes more sense next to the 4Runner in their US lineup. I also think they’ll do another special edition for 2026 MY with round headlights (loaded top model and factory lift). I think Toyota is going to look at not ruining the LC nameplate in the US by bringing a truly base model - which is why I think they did the 1958, which is really well equipped.
Certainly seems possible... The "1958" name gets dropped, but there will still be a trim level with similar attributes...

The whole "Land Cruiser 1958" vs "Land Cruiser Land Cruiser" vs "Land Cruiser First Edition" is a bit confusing, especially when you get into "what is the 'base' model"? question... is it the 1958, or is it the LC LC without premium package or any extras?

But, assuming that were to happen, I'd image that the "base" trim would still be very similar to the current 1958...because as you allude to, the US market expects a certain minimal standard for something branded as a "Land Cruiser" (Prado or not), and they already have more basic 4Runner trim levels to fill those slots...so I can't image they'd drop too many features off what the 1958 already is.

and camera washer
Wait, the 1958 has a camera washer?
 
Certainly seems possible... The "1958" name gets dropped, but there will still be a trim level with similar attributes...

The whole "Land Cruiser 1958" vs "Land Cruiser Land Cruiser" vs "Land Cruiser First Edition" is a bit confusing, especially when you get into "what is the 'base' model"? question... is it the 1958, or is it the LC LC without premium package or any extras?

But, assuming that were to happen, I'd image that the "base" trim would still be very similar to the current 1958...because as you allude to, the US market expects a certain minimal standard for something branded as a "Land Cruiser" (Prado or not), and they already have more basic 4Runner trim levels to fill those slots...so I can't image they'd drop too many features off what the 1958 already is.


Wait, the 1958 has a camera washer?
It sure does have a camera washer.
 
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