It looks like our LCs not only have a matching spare, but a full matching wheel. If that's the case, are any of you including the spare when rotating tires? Are dealers doing this when they rotate?
Five tire rotation?
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I replaced the stock wheels and tires but do plan to do a 5-tire rotation. As long as the tires are non-directional, which all (nearly all?) AT tires are that's the recommended approach. Not sure if the stock tires are non-direcitonal so you should confirm that before deciding on a 4- or 5-tire rotation.
I have two sets of tires. One set is off-road focused and the other is on-road focused. I'll be rotating all 5 tires on both sets as I use them.
Recently at my 6mo/5k service at Toyota I requested a 5 tire rearward cross. I have this image printed out and left it on the arm rest to make things go smoothly. I even had the tire iron conveniently sitting in the trunk in case they needed that (they didn't). Easy peasy.
(I swapped all 5 tires to AT4Ws immediately after I got the cruiser back in July)
(I swapped all 5 tires to AT4Ws immediately after I got the cruiser back in July)
Yup. At 11000 I have been doing it 3x now
I had to request the five tire rotation at my 5k service. Dealer will most likely not do so otherwise.
- Sep 22, 2024
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I got the Nitto Grappler “upgrade” with my LC LC. The manual references doing a 5-tire rotation, yet the spare for mine is a Michelin that clearly does not match. I’m going to be replacing the tires, as I’m not impressed with the Nittos.
That said, I come from the Jeep world and will continue with 5-tire rotations as I have in the past.
That said, I come from the Jeep world and will continue with 5-tire rotations as I have in the past.
Just did my 5k ToyotaCare service and dealer did not touch the spare. They also said they couldn't disable the seatbelt chimes due it being a safety issue so I ended up buying a Carista. Not sure if it's just me, but I hate going to the dealers. Can't wait for my two free oil changes to be done with.
Find another dealer.
Total newb here. First LC. Went to dealer for 5k service and asked about including the spare in the rotation, as the manual indicates. I got laughed at, literally. Said they never do it. They had no explanation for why the directions in the manual would be different from ‘their’ LC service instructions.
Just because they never do it, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. Absolutely nothing wrong with a four tire rotation, but using a 5 tire rotation will extend the length of time before you need to get new tires. Plus, if you need the spare, then it will have similar tread to all of the other tires. And, even better, if you need to replace just one tire (think a blowout or slashed sidewall), then your new tire instantly becomes your spare and you still have four relatively equally worn tires. The downside? You'll be buying 5 tires instead of 4 when you need new ones.
People like you had at the dealer just wear me out. Seriously.
tl;dr
When I built my house I did the electrical installation. When I went to buy eight (yes, eight!) ground rods, the guy at the desk asked me what I was doing. I explained that I was using eight ground rods to ensure as low of a resistance as possible to ground. He was insistent that I couldn't do this, it wasn't code, etc. Fast forward 20 years and a lot of my neighbors have had lightning strikes affect their homes, including my neighbors on either side and behind my house. Not mine. Just because the "expert" doesn't know the right way to do something, doesn't mean the "expert" way is the right way. Rant over.
Also, customers can't be bothered to leave out wheel locks, much less tools to lower spares. Then there's the accusations of lost and damaged trim pieces, bumper scuffs, etc. Not worth it for the mechanics.
Welcome to the asylum mulden8r.
Agreed,, I had similar thoughts after thinking about it. I think I’ve decided I’ll do my own tire rotations and do the 5 tire. Any ‘gotchas’ to be aware of about the TPS monitor? And I’ll have to do a little more thinking on following the manuals rotation diagram or crossing…but I suppose the tires would affect that. In my case the stock Michelin LTXs.
Another thing that soured me on the dealers opinion was they also tried to convince me it was a different tire and rim when I’ve already concluded that’s not the case; it’s a matching full size spare.
The manual has instructions on how to sync the TPMS to their new locations when you rotate tires. It's simple, but the process may seem confusing because the TPMS aren't instantly recognized in their new locations. You have to drive the LC a little while (5-10 minutes normally) before the LC recognizes the new locations.
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