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That is your choice and I respect that. My choice is to have a more capable 4WD system than I had in the 80’s.

It’s difficult to explain and I’m not the best person to explain it but a-trac will apply brake to the wheel with the least traction or greatest slip and apply power to wheels with better traction. There are good write ups about Toyota 4wd systems. Do a google search for a-trac, mts, and crawl...

All the modes of MTS will work in 4h from what I’ve read. Sorry for the confusion.

No I’m not saying that. I’m saying that in certain situations MTS, a-trac can give better results than rear diff lock.

Center lock is locking the driveshaft’s together. Rear lock is locking the rear axles together which is very hard on the axles. I’m sure it can be done but people would forget them locked in high range and blow out the axles. Perhaps that’s Toyotas reason, I really don’t know. I know that my...

I just looked on the Toyota site under the “build” section-protection list carpet floor mats, carpet cargo mat, and all weather cargo mat. IMHO I believe all weather floor mats are standard. Any cargo mat is a PIO as are the carpet floor mats.

I was thinking the same.

Probably take several times of engage/disengage for the rear locker to engage quicker. Almost as if there is a break-in period.

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Correct, confused you with op and I’m argumentative.

Thanks for the summary. Most of the premies fitted with 20’s in the NE. Mine is coming with 20’s. I prefer the design of the 18’s.

Okay then “order” it with leather seats and red or green paint.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that most people religiously following the 91+ octane recommendations will not be following the recommended tire size.

If bigger tires are making it hard to get into… put your stock tires back on.

Toyotas are not “ordered”. The dealers get allocations and can swap allocations with other dealers to get a vehicle equipped similar to what the customer is looking for.

You mentioned the only thing you care for is leather seats, suddenly you care about money???

I’m a member of USW

Just get the lc trim with premium package if that’s all you care for is leather seats.

My factory Toyota 4Runner trd off road rims provide the best protection to the valve stem that I’ve ever seen.

I look at it as the lc is made in Japan, many of them coming from the Tahara plant, especially mine. Whereas the tundra probably made in Mexico, Canada, or even worse USA made by union workers.

I still can’t help but think maybe this was a planned “qc hold”. Toyota gets a bunch of vehicles allocated to consumers. Place a hold on the vehicles. Reveal the 4Runner to see how many people cancel their allocation to wait on a 4r. Or after the 4r reveal how many people jump on the lc train...

All good points mentioned by fellow members. The one thing I would add is that 20” rims probably handle better on the road because of less tire and flex. You may feel every crack more but it will be more responsive in the corners.

Not sure on lc but 4Runner is red. It sometimes takes a while to fully engage, the more it gets used it will get better. I wouldn’t use it for shits and giggles though, or if you want to engage it from time to time do it on a straight path. Lockers are hard on axels.

It depends on your situation. I’m going with lc trim mostly for the MTS. My situation is probably different from most others on the forum. I’m in deep snow a lot, MTS, and a shovel, really helped me in my 4Runners.

11th position 5 is tahara I believe

My last four, 4470, from tahara end of July beginning of August supposed to be in New England

Don’t know how true it is but my dealer told me today the qc delay is the passenger side air bag not deployable while window is rolled down. His first 2 allocations are on that hold. He was able to trade an allocation for me (1958—>lc) with a dealer down state. Different batch than the qc holds...

I kept swapping the racks on my ‘10 4Runner trail to newer ones in the fleet when I inherited them. That rack was the best imo from factory. It looked better and was a couple inches higher for my canoe. Anyway, I always put 100% silicone bead around the circumference of those plastic tubes. You...